Message from @spooky ducc

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2019-11-18 21:59:39 UTC  

That's exactly how we're viewing it and that's why we disrespect your position

2019-11-18 21:59:42 UTC  

Mental gymnastics.

2019-11-18 21:59:58 UTC  

...Mental gymnastics is not for discovering ideas.

2019-11-18 22:00:10 UTC  

It's for avoiding consequentials.

2019-11-18 22:00:12 UTC  

Well, let's get back to the previous point rather.

2019-11-18 22:00:20 UTC  

Mental gymnastics? I feel chuffed about them

2019-11-18 22:00:30 UTC  

Now which definition of chuffed am I using?

2019-11-18 22:00:36 UTC  

Mental gymnastics

2019-11-18 22:00:43 UTC  

<:Veemote:501103628883591188>

2019-11-18 22:01:18 UTC  

You can only infer

2019-11-18 22:01:34 UTC  

This is basically what the argument is like

2019-11-18 22:01:42 UTC  

We all agreed, that acceptance and tolerance were different entities and that you people would like to redefine and get to hypertolerance. Am I following?

2019-11-18 22:01:55 UTC  

>entities

2019-11-18 22:01:57 UTC  

not entities

2019-11-18 22:02:09 UTC  

But I'm trying to use hypertolerance to make our language precise.

2019-11-18 22:02:17 UTC  

Separate characters, one's not a virtue

2019-11-18 22:02:26 UTC  

None of the above are *virtues*

2019-11-18 22:02:29 UTC  

Okay, okay

2019-11-18 22:02:36 UTC  

Go on

2019-11-18 22:02:39 UTC  

You're clearly having trouble with the basics.

2019-11-18 22:02:52 UTC  

So I'm going to lay them back down straight for you

2019-11-18 22:03:04 UTC  

Much appreciated

2019-11-18 22:06:05 UTC  

1. We begin with the assessment that Tolerance and Apathy are perceived falsely as virtuous by a morally perverse and structurally crumbling society.
2. The assessment defines tolerance as a false-virtue pertaining to the tendency for the morally perverse to rationalize and otherwise permit poor behaviors instead of rebuking them and correcting them towards virtuous behaviors. Tolerance as a false-virtue is the absence of objective moral standard, in deference to a nebulous subjectivity.
3. The assessment does not define tolerance as the act of giving due respect to persons.

2019-11-18 22:06:44 UTC  

4. To distinguish between the false-virtue and the act of tolerating, the term "hypertolerance" is suggested as a substitution for the false-virtue.

2019-11-18 22:07:59 UTC  

5. Acceptance is then defined precisely as the active form of hypertolerance - the overt encouragement of behaviors through express approval, rather than tacit, passive permission.

2019-11-18 22:08:23 UTC  
2019-11-18 22:08:31 UTC  

Pretty much

2019-11-18 22:09:54 UTC  

1. If we do (that's what I mean with devil's advocate, for me tolerance of different preferences not overarching NAP is that)

2.yes,if we accepted your premises, it would logically follow, true.

3.yep (same caveat)

4.yep (same caveat)

5.thats some evil, yep I can see @spooky ducc

2019-11-18 22:10:37 UTC  

Accepting point 5 requires accepting point 4, in that case.

2019-11-18 22:10:45 UTC  

Which would imply the caveat is met.

2019-11-18 22:10:50 UTC  

Which means you accept 1.

2019-11-18 22:10:57 UTC  

Oh and thanks for the detailed run down, even if we don't have a good understanding

2019-11-18 22:11:03 UTC  

I try.

2019-11-18 22:11:23 UTC  

Accepting your premises was the seed of my curiosity

2019-11-18 22:11:52 UTC  

k

2019-11-18 22:12:04 UTC  

Is your curiosity sated?

2019-11-18 22:12:44 UTC  

I see where we disagree, there's a few more other branches I suppose.

BUT

Thank you.
Duly

2019-11-18 22:13:16 UTC  

Aye.

2019-11-18 22:13:21 UTC  

So then I suppose we're done here.

2019-11-18 22:13:24 UTC  

Take notes, shitposters.

2019-11-18 22:13:29 UTC  

Cool