Message from @whiic
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So USS Liberty is irony bro?
Supporting Israel is irony bro?
Ree.
There is nothing wrong with pointing out the USS Liberty
It's factual information that more people should know about
@lungfish There isn't. I just don't understand why that was relevant in today.
Stop spamming.
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@lungfish Had Charlie Kirk denied USS Liberty incident **BEFORE** Groypers brought it up?
Because then it would actually be relevant question.
@whiic you can try a little harder. The USS Liberty is relevant because it brings into question the Israeli loyalty to the United States
50 years ago?
You do hold quite a grudge.
50 years ago is seminal to the US-Israeli experience. It's shocking that Israelis would attack a US boat even though the US had done so much for Israel
I think there's better examples of lack of loyalty, like Israel spying US trade secrets in recent decades.
Israel is not a good ally. Period.
@whiic You do for something that happened 80 years ago
@Monstrous Moonshine Did 6 million die on USS Liberty?
Heck, the ship didn't even sink.
You're being disingenuous here
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You should just accept that the USS Liberty is messed up.
And it was a borderline case to begin with... meaning it did sail close to Israeli waters during active military conflict.
Accepting that the USS Liberty situation is bad is not the same thing as embracing full on Nazism
Even snake sides with me that there are better and much newer examples.
And snake is a fucking sperg.
Jonathon Pollard and Lavon Affair are better to bring up than USS Liberty
It's not because it's dated, it's because we have asked it many times now
Also because the intention is difficult to prove
Sperg snake
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Yeah, there are better reasons to suspect Israel loyalty than USS Liberty back in the day when there was active chaos going around (i.e chance of mistake increasing, and no long history of US-Israel alliance).
I think modern violations of trust from Israel are far worse than ancient ones.
Because what Israel does now is taking a piss on **all of the decades of alliance** with USA.
Those are best points.
There are a lot of counter points to it, like the USS liberty, Lavon Affair, Jonathon Pollard, Apollo Affair, Israeli lobby, Dancing Israelis and their role in 9/11, Samson Option, dual allegiance of Jewish-American politicians, Israel selling our tech to China etc.
Not to mention, the recent revelation that Israel has been planting spy devices near the White House: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/12/israel-white-house-spying-devices-1491351
@Monstrous Moonshine Charlie Kirk debunked "dual alliance" with USA compared to Israel.