Message from @Spooky Melon
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"some people"
"some retards"
Yeah we can get into why they promote socialism and defines itself as socialist. But if we look at it as objectively as we can it’s state capitalist
"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares.[1] Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism with ownership or control by a state— by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.[2] "
Ok lenim @Monstrous Moonshine
Notice how they fixate on the latter part of that paragraph and not the former
so hold on here.
if china is state capitalist
then how was the USSR not?
imagine thinking colonialism and slavery are the same thing as capitalism
I was told that mercantilism is the same as capitalism
Hurr durr
The USSR isn’t real communism because real communism is impossible
The only issue with slavery is now we have nigger infestation we cant get rid of
if china today is state capitalist
then the USSR was state capitalist
Pure equality or lack of hierarchy is autistic
because the USSR
took the means of production
Then disregard the utopian ideals and focus on what happened you mong @snake
I was told the genocide in the congo was caused by capitalism lol
one big corp
your definition quite frankly
makes the USSR
state capitalist
Imagine denying USSA as communist
Yeah but there is economic freedom in China to some extend. In the USSR the government just controlled everything directly but in China they heavily regulate businesses and work with them
If death and suffering are caused trying to enforce communism we can still call them communist despite failing you trogs
the businesses ultimately still work for the government
@snake okay, but look at your hallowed definition
it also defines the USSR
"What even are definitions"
@snake there is economic freedom in designated zones, not across the nation
By who Baba?
This chat rn
"my definitions say that the USSR is state capitalist"
>ford
Yeah like Hong Kong
Hong Kong isn't China