Message from @Spooky Melon

Discord ID: 639991438238679050


2019-11-02 00:54:23 UTC  

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2019-11-02 00:54:39 UTC  

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2019-11-02 00:54:43 UTC  

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2019-11-02 00:54:47 UTC  

Irl

2019-11-02 00:54:57 UTC  

China was communist until the 80’s when they got rid of collective farming, price controls and reopened their stock markets just to name a few policies.

2019-11-02 00:55:09 UTC  

thats.......

2019-11-02 00:55:11 UTC  

just.....

2019-11-02 00:55:17 UTC  

opening foreign trade.....

2019-11-02 00:55:19 UTC  

@snake Communism isn't just economics

2019-11-02 00:55:40 UTC  

Are you saying it’s not a capitalist country because it’s authoritarian?

2019-11-02 00:55:56 UTC  

It literally is State Capitalist

2019-11-02 00:56:14 UTC  

No, we are saying it isn't capitalist because it doesn't espouse capitalism nor define itself as such

2019-11-02 00:56:17 UTC  

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2019-11-02 00:56:36 UTC  

Exactly

2019-11-02 00:56:43 UTC  

Glad you were able to figure it out

2019-11-02 00:56:53 UTC  

"some people"

2019-11-02 00:57:01 UTC  

"some retards"

2019-11-02 00:57:10 UTC  

Yeah we can get into why they promote socialism and defines itself as socialist. But if we look at it as objectively as we can it’s state capitalist

2019-11-02 00:57:29 UTC  

"State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares.[1] Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism with ownership or control by a state— by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production.[2] "

2019-11-02 00:57:29 UTC  
2019-11-02 00:57:30 UTC  

Notice how they fixate on the latter part of that paragraph and not the former

2019-11-02 00:57:34 UTC  

so hold on here.

2019-11-02 00:57:40 UTC  

if china is state capitalist

2019-11-02 00:57:47 UTC  

then how was the USSR not?

2019-11-02 00:57:50 UTC  

imagine thinking colonialism and slavery are the same thing as capitalism

2019-11-02 00:58:14 UTC  

I was told that mercantilism is the same as capitalism

2019-11-02 00:58:25 UTC  

Hurr durr

2019-11-02 00:58:26 UTC  

The USSR isn’t real communism because real communism is impossible

2019-11-02 00:58:32 UTC  

The only issue with slavery is now we have nigger infestation we cant get rid of

2019-11-02 00:58:36 UTC  

if china today is state capitalist

2019-11-02 00:58:40 UTC  

then the USSR was state capitalist

2019-11-02 00:58:44 UTC  

Pure equality or lack of hierarchy is autistic

2019-11-02 00:58:44 UTC  

because the USSR

2019-11-02 00:58:48 UTC  

took the means of production

2019-11-02 00:58:49 UTC  

Then disregard the utopian ideals and focus on what happened you mong @snake

2019-11-02 00:58:51 UTC  

and made the country

2019-11-02 00:58:51 UTC  

I was told the genocide in the congo was caused by capitalism lol

2019-11-02 00:58:53 UTC  

one big corp

2019-11-02 00:59:25 UTC  

your definition quite frankly