Message from @Inkogni

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2019-11-11 09:55:38 UTC  

Its a useful tool if you want to be Machiavellian with it even as a user

2019-11-11 09:56:45 UTC  

but if you allow them to search in your contacts, well, you claim it's not private and can use it to ameliorate their algorithm

2019-11-11 09:57:47 UTC  

You accept by accepting the popup that comes before you install the app and the TOS and other disclaimers

2019-11-11 09:58:10 UTC  

You go to court and they just say well there is a disclaimer and you CHOOSE to use it despite knowing what it'd do

2019-11-11 09:58:13 UTC  

you know the "Do you allow this app to access your contacts etc"

2019-11-11 09:58:17 UTC  

Yep

2019-11-11 09:58:29 UTC  

Never thought about that until after I learned this

2019-11-11 10:01:11 UTC  
2019-11-11 10:01:14 UTC  

doesnt change the fact that its not enforceable

2019-11-11 10:01:27 UTC  

regret nothing

2019-11-11 10:01:31 UTC  

like instagram or twitter going "anything you post here is our copyright"

2019-11-11 10:01:53 UTC  

They can do that as a publisher

2019-11-11 10:01:56 UTC  

some weird copyright BS happen while i was away ?

2019-11-11 10:02:15 UTC  

@Samaritan™ still not enforceable

2019-11-11 10:02:26 UTC  

Because if you couple with a publisher to publish your say book you can give up all rights

2019-11-11 10:02:28 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/643390066319687680/bong42.png

2019-11-11 10:02:31 UTC  

***its thrown out as soon as it gets to court***

2019-11-11 10:02:32 UTC  

But you can't do that as a platform

2019-11-11 10:02:37 UTC  

They have no right

2019-11-11 10:02:56 UTC  

Is Instagram a platform or publisher? the answer seems obvious

2019-11-11 10:03:04 UTC  

i thought both of those shitholes sites are trying to claim not to be publishers

2019-11-11 10:03:26 UTC  

Challenging it gets thrown out of court not the TOS

2019-11-11 10:03:40 UTC  

They are claiming both simultaneously

2019-11-11 10:03:45 UTC  

you also CANT enforce them owning everything thats uploaded to their sites

2019-11-11 10:03:50 UTC  

Sometimes in the same sentence

2019-11-11 10:04:07 UTC  

Not being able to enforce it just means you can get away with it

2019-11-11 10:04:22 UTC  

lemme just steal some of apple's shit and upload
now apple can and will likely sue them to oblivion

2019-11-11 10:05:01 UTC  

theres no effin way they can control uploads unless they restrict the 99% ability to upload

2019-11-11 10:05:22 UTC  

Unless they use your stuff you can't sue

2019-11-11 10:05:43 UTC  

I think there is a ulterior motivation to that ownership thing but I don't know what it is

2019-11-11 10:05:48 UTC  

@Samaritan™ just verified, there's no such things as "allow us to access your personnal phone data or you won't be able to use the app"
It's privacy invasion if you refuse them access and they do it anyway

2019-11-11 10:05:50 UTC  

them claiming ownershit of ALL uploads is enough to sue

2019-11-11 10:05:52 UTC  

its MINE

2019-11-11 10:05:55 UTC  

I think it is so they can still claim to be a publisher despite clearly being a platform

2019-11-11 10:06:05 UTC  

its a BS claim

2019-11-11 10:06:20 UTC  

You are given the chance to refuse access though

2019-11-11 10:06:37 UTC  

By not clicking accept to "app will access your contact list"

2019-11-11 10:06:47 UTC  

give it 5years max and it will hit rock bottom from 2 things. either they will get almost absolute power with help of some GOV or get nuked from orbit

2019-11-11 10:06:55 UTC  

There is a case for when they update the app to do new things that you never accepted though

2019-11-11 10:07:12 UTC  

But there is also no case because otherwise everyone would have done something with that by now

2019-11-11 10:07:21 UTC  

@Inkogni That keyboard. What the fuck. Where is the numpad?!