Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-11-07 18:56:30 UTC  

it just creates the APPEARENCE of consent

2019-11-07 18:56:41 UTC  

The only time it wouldn't be binding is in the case of duress or fraud in the inducement or unconscionability or something like that

2019-11-07 18:57:06 UTC  

which basically describes ANY tos

2019-11-07 18:57:36 UTC  

there is the other caveat too; both parties must be provided a COPY of the contract for reference

2019-11-07 18:57:40 UTC  

an immutable copy

2019-11-07 18:57:46 UTC  

The court considers a signature (electronic or otherwise) to be "good enough" evidence of consent for the aforementioned reason. If you didn't really wanna do it, why'd you sign where it says "you agree"?

2019-11-07 18:57:53 UTC  

last time i checked, electronic contracts are not immutable

2019-11-07 18:58:21 UTC  

that is just the current precedence though

2019-11-07 18:58:30 UTC  

german officer capturing a polish jew to personally deliver them to a concentration camp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633966934622208031/642075417708331008/20191107135509_1.jpg

2019-11-07 18:58:34 UTC  

because relatively few such cases have been heard

2019-11-07 18:58:35 UTC  

@Marushia Dark because there's no way im reading all that garbage im not likely to fully grasp without taking a lot of time for anyway

2019-11-07 18:58:46 UTC  

> which basically describes ANY tos

That's a separate matter and that's more of a grey area. You could potentially argue that point that no reasonable person ACTUALLY reads the ToS, but by the same token, you ought to know with whom you deal and you still have a duty to read it. So, you're gambling with that argument.

2019-11-07 18:59:12 UTC  

more to the point, you could argue that clause wasn't PRESENT on the orignal version

2019-11-07 18:59:23 UTC  

I at least skim through ToS and just about anything I sign

2019-11-07 18:59:27 UTC  

and because your weren't provided a copy

2019-11-07 18:59:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633966934622208031/642075690036101128/unknown.png

2019-11-07 18:59:35 UTC  

and they control the only MASTER copy

2019-11-07 18:59:47 UTC  

they can change it when and to what they wish at will

2019-11-07 19:00:03 UTC  

"To be able to know is the same as to know. This maxim is applied to the duty of every one to know the law." ~ Legal Maxim

2019-11-07 19:00:08 UTC  

without notifying the other party

2019-11-07 19:00:19 UTC  

relevance?

2019-11-07 19:00:29 UTC  

They will argue they sent you an email, which is accepted as sufficient notice by the court

2019-11-07 19:00:38 UTC  

negative

2019-11-07 19:00:40 UTC  

@Marushia Dark which is stupid

2019-11-07 19:00:50 UTC  

emails are almost ALWAYS inadmissible

2019-11-07 19:01:07 UTC  

certified mail trumps email EVERY TIME

2019-11-07 19:01:07 UTC  

If they had a receipt system that'd be different

2019-11-07 19:01:34 UTC  

Dafuq courts have you been in, MA that all this ridiculous procedure is taking place? <:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-11-07 19:01:39 UTC  

"We tried, so you knew" is bullshit, regardless of what the law states

2019-11-07 19:01:40 UTC  

The slow redpilling of PewDiePie is speeding up
https://youtu.be/F5QWUOAcg_Q

2019-11-07 19:01:42 UTC  

if i make up my own contract which is a derivative of theirs, send it by registered mail and hold onto it

2019-11-07 19:01:47 UTC  

in court, they get FUCKED

2019-11-07 19:02:14 UTC  

Registered mail is good evidence, but not the only form of evidence

2019-11-07 19:02:27 UTC  

Here's a dirty little secret about the courts ....

2019-11-07 19:02:35 UTC  

the mail ALWAYS beats any electronic medium because the US postal service is deemed to be good enough for the tranmission to be authenticated

2019-11-07 19:02:52 UTC  

"The thumb of one race." -PewDiePie, 11/2019

2019-11-07 19:03:01 UTC  

email can EASILY be spoofed

2019-11-07 19:03:18 UTC  

@Marushia Dark theyre boomers

2019-11-07 19:03:24 UTC  

hell, i could even write an email to myself that google would think came from Youtube

2019-11-07 19:03:38 UTC  

and google would see it as authentic