Message from @D3bug_logic

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2019-11-10 17:35:21 UTC  

@Marushia Dark which one

2019-11-10 17:35:26 UTC  

who said that?

2019-11-10 17:35:41 UTC  

you have to sell something to get paid

2019-11-10 17:35:49 UTC  

diamonds are worth more than cobblestone

2019-11-10 17:35:56 UTC  

under capitalism you are forced to sell your labor for a wage

2019-11-10 17:36:01 UTC  

thats not free will

2019-11-10 17:36:03 UTC  

practical work is worth less than what a scientist does

2019-11-10 17:36:05 UTC  

you either do that or starve

2019-11-10 17:36:07 UTC  

@BabaBooey Move past the buzzwords. What about it do you dislike?

2019-11-10 17:36:07 UTC  

in most cases

2019-11-10 17:36:22 UTC  

No one owes you a job. A job is just "I have a problem and am willing to give something to someone who'll solve it," and then people vie for what that is

2019-11-10 17:36:31 UTC  

youre not forced to sell your labour, youre forced to find a way to survive

2019-11-10 17:36:32 UTC  

@Cryosite i think its rather creepy personally that grown men are fans of it, it kind of makes it seem like they want to be close to children

2019-11-10 17:36:40 UTC  

Read "The Slight Edge"

2019-11-10 17:36:45 UTC  

@BabaBooey they are compensated for their labour each day and thereby do not have to own the large risk associated with failure of a company
Why shouldnt i be able to accept money for my labour?
In communists states/socialist states you do not have that opition or it exists as black market.
To think that people dont starve in ussr

2019-11-10 17:36:46 UTC  

tbh ban nature, you dont have free will to decide that the lion isnt gonna eat you

2019-11-10 17:36:54 UTC  

@Marushia Dark under capitalist mode of production yes nobody owes you anything

2019-11-10 17:37:01 UTC  

if you inherit a large factory

2019-11-10 17:37:03 UTC  

you earned it

2019-11-10 17:37:04 UTC  

incorrect

2019-11-10 17:37:05 UTC  

its yours

2019-11-10 17:37:13 UTC  

@BabaBooey unlike you, I am not going to speak for you. I am not going to assert what it is you think and try to demonize it.

There you go. That's an actual point to be disussed. So, you question the motives of people and fear a particular outcome is their likely motive?

2019-11-10 17:37:14 UTC  

you can now live comfortably the rest of your life

2019-11-10 17:37:17 UTC  

as will your family

2019-11-10 17:37:19 UTC  

incorrect

2019-11-10 17:37:27 UTC  

No one owes you a job because you're basically saying someone owes you the fact that there's a problem to be solved and you're entitled to be the one to fix it. That is retarded

2019-11-10 17:37:39 UTC  

@Marushia Dark im not saying anyone owes anyone a job under capitalism

2019-11-10 17:37:45 UTC  

if you cant get a job state helps you out

2019-11-10 17:37:46 UTC  

at least here

2019-11-10 17:37:47 UTC  

under my proposed mode of production, they would take it

2019-11-10 17:37:49 UTC  

Or any system

2019-11-10 17:37:56 UTC  

the workers wouldnt need the owner

2019-11-10 17:38:06 UTC  

@Marushia Dark why is it that you want to keep your identity a secret so badly?

2019-11-10 17:38:16 UTC  

Esp as an author

2019-11-10 17:38:21 UTC  
2019-11-10 17:38:22 UTC  

@BabaBooey Would you think that people becoming parents is a thing you ought to be concerned about? It's something that gets grown adults close to (their own, newly made) children. There are lots of reports of crimes of parents abusing their own kids.

2019-11-10 17:38:35 UTC  

@BabaBooey what happens when the factory fails to compete and becomes obsolete?

2019-11-10 17:38:39 UTC  
2019-11-10 17:38:46 UTC  

@Cryosite im talking about the 20-30 year old single guys without kids who are into it

2019-11-10 17:38:57 UTC  

if there is no owner then who takes the fall for the factory or business failing?