Message from @ShimShamWhamBam
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and that's post birth abortion
Binary thinkers cannot understand
I seriously don't see the difference between killing a fetus and killing a 3 year old
What I’m saying is that it’s impossible for any kind of sentience to exist before 4 weeks, as there is no brain for that sentience to reside in.
After four weeks, we just can’t know. Err on the side of not-murder.
We really can't
If we could find a singular definition for either they'd both be simpler to recreate mechanically
Laws allow very little wiggle room, it's illegal or legal, things can be legal and immoral or illegal and moral, but the legality of the issue is what we are discussing, so we must be precise and binary to that end
I often say that the law can't rule on what science and philosophy can't answer. If we can't tell what is sentience and when it occurs, then it's morally ambiguous
typically it takes 2 weeks to find out if youre pregnant via tests
Aside from Joker, were there any good movies this year?
@Marushia Dark I think ShimSham has you here
The last jedi was pretty funny
so.. that leaves max 2 weeks to abort... which doesnt seem right
@Marushia Dark And so, id rather err on the side of not murdering someone.
I literally just agreed with him, Roe
@ShimShamWhamBam that was 2017 not 2019
or easy
Consciousness is the biproduct of a of a working brain. A property like H20's "wetness".
Nope
@Marushia Dark He literally isn't even arguing with your small brained position
IKR
it's because it's so bad people are still finding things to dislike about it
Lol
It is an emergent property
You can have a working neural system without consciousness
watching breaking bad first time through and saul goodman is the best
tbh
@Caeser true
lol yea
But, again, any legislation would be aimed at doctors, not mothers.
It would be illegal for a doctor to *provide* an abortion.
It wouldn’t be illegal for a mother to seek one.
But still managed to write a 2 part article on abortion
some how
abortion becoming illegal would just make people travel abroad
With isolated parameters as far as we can distinguish. It not being present in other configurations of neural systems is not argument against @Hexidecimark
@Scale_e legislation would criminalize both sides, the getaway driver is as guilty as the bank robberer
to get an abortion
We aren’t telling women what they can and can’t do with their bodies.
We’re telling doctors what they can and can’t do with their scalpels.
@Win Roe well the thing to remember, is hippies are brain dead