Message from @ETBrooD

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ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:08:39 UTC  

How?

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:08:56 UTC  

I'm asking you not about the logistics but the socio-politics

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:08:56 UTC  

And if they care so much for the environment-let them PAY for it!

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:09:25 UTC  

We can actually do it-just propose legislation which can difffer the two.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:09:34 UTC  

How is that going to go through?

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:10:10 UTC  

Just like we currently in the EU, don't know how it is in the US, have a legislation covering organics that is different than the one covering all other foods.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:10:25 UTC  

I don't think you quite understand what I'm saying

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:10:41 UTC  

@ETBrooD Then, please, elaborate.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:10:44 UTC  

I'm not talking about the logistics, or the legislation itself

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:10:53 UTC  

I'm talking about getting people to actually side with your ideas

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:10:57 UTC  

How do you get them to agree?

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:11:10 UTC  

By making them angry.

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:11:16 UTC  

Meme the shit out of them.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:11:24 UTC  

What are you talking about?

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:11:40 UTC  

Put it in the discourse and push that good fee-fees to the point of breaking.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:11:49 UTC  

Please be more specific

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:12:09 UTC  

A real action plan, something concrete

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:12:32 UTC  

Well, I mean if they are trolling us with their green bullshit, than we should troll them with telling them to PAY for it out of their own pockets, not ours.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:12:46 UTC  

Politics is not about trolling

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:13:09 UTC  

When they propose a carbon tax, we propose different grid, so THEY can cover the expenses.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:13:32 UTC  

Who is they and who is us?

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:13:40 UTC  

Who are these people that you're talking about?

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:13:47 UTC  

When they feel right by abolishing GMOs or get into the farmers workings, we propose they pay for organics.

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:13:56 UTC  

How can you not get it?

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:14:07 UTC  

I get the feeling you're talking about some vague idea of 'them' that doesn't really exist except in your head

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:14:08 UTC  

THEY have this us vs. them mentality.

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:14:50 UTC  

For them we are all the enemies because we pollute and they feel righteous because they don't.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:14:59 UTC  

What *exactly* are you talking about? Discord?

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:15:05 UTC  

This cute little politics discord here?

randomNPCno3
2019-09-21 05:15:24 UTC  

I think he means identity politicians

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:15:31 UTC  

This little corner of the world that no one enters except those with wild fantasies about greater worlds?

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:15:33 UTC  

I'm talking about the green-lefties.

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:15:38 UTC  

Can you see that?

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:16:01 UTC  

No I don't

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:16:07 UTC  

I reall don't know what you mean

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:16:07 UTC  

Why?

randomNPCno3
2019-09-21 05:16:15 UTC  

I have a double think image that decently explanatory, I'll post it in <#613769167199535104>

yordanyordanov
2019-09-21 05:16:24 UTC  

I thought it was a predicate in our discussion.

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:16:29 UTC  

No it wasn't

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:16:58 UTC  

We were debating a general problem with society, an underlying issue, something that's been making the west sick from the inside

ETBrooD
2019-09-21 05:17:26 UTC  

It wasn't about concrete people, or even groups of people, it was about the notion that the west is falling for its own propaganda