Message from @ashzeppelin

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2019-09-21 13:39:56 UTC  

I think China and Russia will be very happy with it, but if the US seriously goes to war it would come to 2, not 1 front and even they can't handle it.

2019-09-21 13:40:02 UTC  

Also this war would pile up the already worsening immigrant and refugee crisis.

2019-09-21 13:40:26 UTC  

Yes, 1 will be Iran but the second would be Yemen as well.

2019-09-21 13:40:37 UTC  

May be even Syria will enter.

2019-09-21 13:41:13 UTC  

To a point it just breaks and it's all out chaos. Imagine all the Yemenis, Iranians and Saudis adding to the Syrian refugees.
The West will pass it's breaking point, seeing the troubles the current immigrants are already causing. I doubt even the Left manages to keep their sanity with that whopping number of displaced people from that conflict.

2019-09-21 13:47:25 UTC  

And countries like Turkey and Qatar are just going to add in on the fire.

2019-09-21 13:47:52 UTC  

I'm sure they would love to play both sides and emerge as the biggest victorers here.

2019-09-21 13:48:42 UTC  

Actually, the conflict might end up in the creation o entire new states and the complete redraw of the maps in the near East.

2019-09-21 13:49:03 UTC  

And it would certainly **not** benefit America.

2019-09-21 13:50:53 UTC  

Sweet karma for Iran I guess, it all comes back to that CIA backed coup all those years ago that removed a democratic president in favour of the Shah. All that sabre rattlers waiting for war against Iran seem to forget that it was the Western intervention in the coup that toppled President Mossadegh that eventually led to the Islamic Revolution and overthrow of their installed leader, the Shah.

2019-09-21 13:55:14 UTC  

@Sleepy_Fox I wonder how those two are still alive and free in China?

2019-09-21 13:55:25 UTC  

Or may be their days are running out?

2019-09-21 13:56:46 UTC  

@yordanyordanov What's going on with Turkey tho? It seems to acting pretty rogue as a NATO member recently.

2019-09-21 13:57:23 UTC  

Turkey is already NATO in paper only.

2019-09-21 13:57:51 UTC  

Erdogan slaughtered the military and took charge of the country single-handedly.

2019-09-21 13:57:55 UTC  

The recent talks with Russia regarding the Su 57 fighter jets makes the status even more tenuous as it already was.

2019-09-21 13:58:11 UTC  

Did you guys in the West did not know that?

2019-09-21 13:58:50 UTC  

Erdogan plans to create a neo Ottoman empire or something now?

2019-09-21 14:03:16 UTC  

No one really knows, not even the Turks, but he is now one step away from proclaiming himself a sultan and the worst part is that Putin has his back.

2019-09-21 14:03:45 UTC  

To the dismal of both the Turkish and the Russian peoples.

2019-09-21 14:04:55 UTC  

All the while it's even more uncertain times in Israel, Netenyahu's government is in grave danger of losing their majority. I wonder what Israel's future political influence will be now.

2019-09-21 14:05:41 UTC  

Reality is no one around here, I mean the Balkans, really knows how that thing happened because we all were used to knowing that Russia is our greatest ally and Turkey-our greatest enemy, and now things are out of control.

2019-09-21 14:06:21 UTC  

I even heard some Greeks (let me remind you that Greece and Serbia are like-ultra Russian) talk shit about Russia nowadays.

2019-09-21 14:06:40 UTC  

Things had change so much that no one can really predict what will happen.

2019-09-21 14:07:32 UTC  

I do not know would Putin make the step of allying himself with the Islamists but if he does it would really turn the Russian people's gut on the inside.

2019-09-21 14:08:04 UTC  

Especially considering Russia's own history with Islamists. Chechnya and Afghanistan.

2019-09-21 14:08:27 UTC  

If he doesn't-he will lose great opportunity to strike a devastating blow to the West, and you know what, that's exactly what these KGB freaks have always wanted to do.

2019-09-21 14:09:04 UTC  

Right now the KGB, not the people of Russia, are facing a hard choice the result of which I really can't predict.

2019-09-21 14:10:07 UTC  

I mean Putin isn't that dumb to forget the mistake that the Soviets did in Afghanistan.
Who really "lost" that war in hindsight is so interesting now.

2019-09-21 14:10:40 UTC  

If they help the Islamists they can destabilize the Near east and turn it into the grave of the West, however, the price for it would be the soul of their own people, because Russia will turn into something UGLY for everyone daring to call himself Russian proud of his history.

2019-09-21 14:11:11 UTC  

@ashzeppelin I'm talking about something completely else here.

2019-09-21 14:11:44 UTC  

Putin's experience with Islamists so far is ruthless oppression tho.

2019-09-21 14:11:47 UTC  

I Afghanistan the soviets were fighting AGAINST the Islamists. Now, they will have to fight WITH them.

2019-09-21 14:12:06 UTC  

Not really, not for the last few years.

2019-09-21 14:12:24 UTC  

They stroke some quite good deals with Erdogan.

2019-09-21 14:12:33 UTC  

Isn't Chechnya as bad as the Uighur regions of China?

2019-09-21 14:12:39 UTC  

Nope.

2019-09-21 14:13:47 UTC  

There is a full blown Sharia in the Caucuses, if you don't know. It's against the Russian laws but they tolerate it as long as it is not aimed against the ruling party.

2019-09-21 14:14:31 UTC  

It is disgust for many Russians but Putin is having a score out of it because it helps him keep the Islamists under control and get rich out of that lucrative oil.

2019-09-21 14:14:56 UTC  

Oh that's one thing the USSR didn't do I guess

2019-09-21 14:14:56 UTC  

It looks like Kremlin can strike some pretty lucrative deals with the Islamists now,