Do you think goods being more expensive helps the consumer?

Think logically here.

We can break it down.

I am, the economy changes,

What's the impact on the consumer if goods are more expensive?

And I hear demogoguery of how "its still totally worth it to stay in, guys, for realsies this time"

Positive, or negative?

There is a price ceiling on petrochemicals in N. America basically. If the full cycle breakdown goes a bit over 40 we start making more.

It becomes less international, and more of an american economy.

What's the impact on the consumer if goods are more expensive?

Positive, or negative?

That depends, what was the impact of going to an international economy? Prices decreased overall, so did wages.

You've not answered the question.

It's a binary choice.

If we are going to talk America first, then by God, make it American Oil and we will still survive all of the price increases.

Again you are not getting it. Nothing that happens in the ME can negatively impact our domestic market. Quite the opposite since our shale product is so lite if we have to fill export demand gas prices go *down* in the US because of the supply of distillate.

False Dichotomy There are more than two choices.

nothing in economics is binary, like I was saying about wages

Either the prices rise, or they fall.

If the prices rise.

No, the economy absorbs it the way economies do.

Is that positive or negative for the consumer?

Again, not a binary thing.

They NEVER are.

They absorb *some* of the impact

In this case, it is.

Either it benefits the consumer, or it doesn't,

It's a false argument because prices go down and supply goes up.

How are you unable to answer a simple question?

It's A or B.

Either price increases hurt consumers or they benefit them.

Economies expand and contract, and they broaden and narrow. These things are multidimensional.

What's your answer?

@Jokerfaic How do you actually talk to these people?

A AND B

See, in binary, you can AND, and you can OR, and you can XOR.

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This is not an OR, this is an AND

So price increases benefit the consumer

How so?

The benefit the consumer by raising the wages of those who produce product B