Message from @beatless

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2019-10-09 15:09:07 UTC  

But such men don't exist much anymore, they're no longer needed this much

2019-10-09 15:09:31 UTC  

Can't your politicians make it into law? Gov mandates? Our Ministry of Education requires schools teach home ec

2019-10-09 15:09:37 UTC  

The two world wars connected families like nothing else could

2019-10-09 15:09:53 UTC  

It created such a vacuum that it made things unbearable for people like my mom

2019-10-09 15:10:01 UTC  

You don't need a war. Just politicians that want nation & family building

2019-10-09 15:10:09 UTC  

Yeah what I mean is

2019-10-09 15:10:40 UTC  

Typically children desire either one of those things more strongly, typically what they didn't get

2019-10-09 15:10:55 UTC  

Distance, if their parents clinged, and bonding, if their parents were cold

2019-10-09 15:11:31 UTC  

Freedom, if their parents were controlling

2019-10-09 15:11:41 UTC  

Control, if their parents were gone

2019-10-09 15:12:05 UTC  

This creates deep psychological insecurities

2019-10-09 15:12:50 UTC  

The freedom loving boomer generation was followed by a more nihilistic generation

2019-10-09 15:13:11 UTC  

And this nihilism created a huge vacuum, people miss deep bonds

2019-10-09 15:13:18 UTC  

Meaning etc.

2019-10-09 15:13:49 UTC  

Emos fall right into that space

2019-10-09 15:14:56 UTC  

I suspect, for example, that AntiFa are partially made up of emos that are too far gone right now

2019-10-09 15:15:10 UTC  

They resent the old because it rejected them

2019-10-09 15:17:40 UTC  

To be honest i dont know how to fully uncover the reasons why western societies lose family and value independence once they reach 18. I mean, some do kick their children out & are deatbeat parents. Some children esp leftists are bums in their mothers' basements (still?) or perhaps why they insist on taking a useless degree to get away from their family & live with others

2019-10-09 15:18:16 UTC  

Yes, that's a known phenomenon, it's real

2019-10-09 15:18:24 UTC  

The adult child that still lives at home with their parents

2019-10-09 15:18:39 UTC  

Live with strangers/so called "friends" which they'll tear each other apart when they start to hate them

2019-10-09 15:19:31 UTC  

Yeah cause friendships typically don't last forever

2019-10-09 15:19:47 UTC  

And what starts them is often lost before they end

2019-10-09 15:20:13 UTC  

This also used to be very different

2019-10-09 15:20:24 UTC  

My grandma still sees her classmates

2019-10-09 15:20:30 UTC  

She's over 90

2019-10-09 15:20:43 UTC  

I saw one documentary where some young adult japanese are starting to live beside their parents' homes

2019-10-09 15:21:11 UTC  

Yep, this is a huge phenomenon in japan

2019-10-09 15:21:19 UTC  

They're a depressed and lost generation

2019-10-09 15:21:21 UTC  

One to be closer to their parents (the rare ones that still value them) and two, to help learn how to rear their own children

2019-10-09 15:21:35 UTC  

Isn't it like America?

2019-10-09 15:21:50 UTC  

It is, in fact in Japan it's a bigger phenomenon than in the west, I think?

2019-10-09 15:22:26 UTC  

Because they live much more isolated lives, which makes the family the only valid emotional safety net

2019-10-09 15:23:13 UTC  

But it still addresses reconnecting family values. Both japan and america/western nations seem to become insanely individualistic

2019-10-09 15:23:31 UTC  

Yeah

2019-10-09 15:23:53 UTC  

This effect has been predicted by many people already wayyyyy back in the 90's

2019-10-09 15:24:09 UTC  

Maybe that's why socialists keep dreaming up "the commune" when...that stuff is typical rural life/visiting our grandparents stuff

2019-10-09 15:24:27 UTC  

Some people spoke up about the rift that technology was causing in families

2019-10-09 15:25:01 UTC  

Radio and TV made for some family together-time, but gaming consoles and phones do not

2019-10-09 15:25:19 UTC  

The Wii actively tries to change that actually

2019-10-09 15:25:50 UTC  

And D&D is also growing rapidly, showing a need of people to connect