America abandoned them just like it's doing in the Middle East.

I'm not surprised people are unhappy with the USA.

Usually countries don't know how good they got when America was "around" (be it bilateral military training or intervension) until after America is forced to leave by local demand

It's just an odd predicament for the US. I see more of the "gtfo america" sentiment

Americans need to take the approach of the British, getting the locals more involved

The aim should be to make it so the locals can replace the troops.

That's exactly what the British were doing in Afghanistan and it worked to great effect

The US started doing the same after many years and again pulled out too early.

We should just never go in

You can't just enter a place, occupy it and throw equipment around and expect it to work

So how long should they have stayed in Syria?

The Americans should have stayed in Kurdistan, not Syria for at least another 4-5 years

Cause locals still get frustrated that America is still around and think we can manage shit

There was limited troops there as is

No, the Kurds NEEDED the US troops.

Yeah

The US troops were the thing keeping the Turks from invading

As they're doing now after the US left.

And keeping the Russians from bombing the Kurds

Since they don't want to risk an international incident, killing US troops.

So the US troops simply being there, kept the fighting down.

They should have stayed until the Kurds had to power to self-defend themselves from the Turks on their Northern border.

Funnily enough the US fucked the Kurds by encouraging them to remove their fortifications on the Turkish border.

Then just left.

The kurds don't look like they'll ever have the power for self-defense against a bigger country like Turkey any decade soon

They would have, with the US backing

I can go into reasons as to why Kurdistan is beneficial to the US

If you want as well

Kurds are gone

Soon to be gone

You know what's even more beneficial to the US

Yeah

Not giving a shit

It objectively isn't @Hexidecimark

But I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

You're an isolationist afterall.

Maybe they should have not given a shit before they started eating

I already know Kurds are beneficial. It just seems America's always in that "damned if u do, damned if u don't" position

They aren't dammed if they kept troops there though

That's the thing..

What do you mean? @RAM II