Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-10 14:47:46 UTC  

I use 'you' for Americans

2019-10-10 14:47:47 UTC  

Sorry

2019-10-10 14:47:50 UTC  

Habit

2019-10-10 14:47:55 UTC  

Most of the people in here are American

2019-10-10 14:48:22 UTC  

Ok. Idk, even then there's still sentiment after US intervention within locals that America should gtfo

2019-10-10 14:48:33 UTC  

Where?

2019-10-10 14:48:49 UTC  

Iraqis after the second invasion?

2019-10-10 14:49:14 UTC  

Yeah, and during american colonization

2019-10-10 14:49:20 UTC  

"american colonization" ?

2019-10-10 14:49:26 UTC  

What, when, where?

2019-10-10 14:49:53 UTC  

The Iraqi one would be because it was the second invasion, something which shouldn't have happened

2019-10-10 14:49:59 UTC  

Sadam should have been removed after the first one

2019-10-10 14:50:18 UTC  

And the development which was started AFTER the second invasion should have happened just after the first invasion

2019-10-10 14:50:49 UTC  

Firstly, like post Vietnam, was a hate America - hate China even more - then now love America relationship.

2019-10-10 14:51:03 UTC  

"Firstly, like post Vietnam" That's because the Vietcong won

2019-10-10 14:51:04 UTC  

Kek

2019-10-10 14:51:45 UTC  

America abandoned them just like it's doing in the Middle East.

2019-10-10 14:51:54 UTC  

I'm not surprised people are unhappy with the USA.

2019-10-10 14:52:07 UTC  

Usually countries don't know how good they got when America was "around" (be it bilateral military training or intervension) until after America is forced to leave by local demand

2019-10-10 14:52:47 UTC  

It's just an odd predicament for the US. I see more of the "gtfo america" sentiment

2019-10-10 14:52:54 UTC  

Americans need to take the approach of the British, getting the locals more involved

2019-10-10 14:53:05 UTC  

The aim should be to make it so the locals can replace the troops.

2019-10-10 14:53:19 UTC  

That's exactly what the British were doing in Afghanistan and it worked to great effect

2019-10-10 14:53:34 UTC  

The US started doing the same after many years and again pulled out too early.

2019-10-10 14:54:07 UTC  

We should just never go in

2019-10-10 14:54:08 UTC  

You can't just enter a place, occupy it and throw equipment around and expect it to work

2019-10-10 14:54:09 UTC  

So how long should they have stayed in Syria?

2019-10-10 14:54:31 UTC  

The Americans should have stayed in Kurdistan, not Syria for at least another 4-5 years

2019-10-10 14:54:35 UTC  

Cause locals still get frustrated that America is still around and think we can manage shit

2019-10-10 14:54:36 UTC  

There was limited troops there as is

2019-10-10 14:54:46 UTC  

No, the Kurds NEEDED the US troops.

2019-10-10 14:54:53 UTC  

Yeah

2019-10-10 14:54:55 UTC  

The US troops were the thing keeping the Turks from invading

2019-10-10 14:55:01 UTC  

As they're doing now after the US left.

2019-10-10 14:55:08 UTC  

And keeping the Russians from bombing the Kurds

2019-10-10 14:55:19 UTC  

Since they don't want to risk an international incident, killing US troops.

2019-10-10 14:55:32 UTC  

So the US troops simply being there, kept the fighting down.

2019-10-10 14:55:52 UTC  

They should have stayed until the Kurds had to power to self-defend themselves from the Turks on their Northern border.

2019-10-10 14:56:23 UTC  

Funnily enough the US fucked the Kurds by encouraging them to remove their fortifications on the Turkish border.

2019-10-10 14:56:25 UTC  

Then just left.

2019-10-10 14:56:40 UTC  

The kurds don't look like they'll ever have the power for self-defense against a bigger country like Turkey any decade soon