Message from @Sawyer42
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Hear hear
Turkey is in a strategically important position
it's beneficial to have them be at worst neutral
Yes Turkey is important, that's not in question.
@leavethisbotnet Or you just glass them and take them over.
But they're moving into Russia's sphere of influence.
Like, NATO countries are supposed to be democracies that at least pretend to like freedom
And aligning themslves with Russia.
@Nathan James 123 seconded
Turkey ain't neither
@Goddess Tyche go meme on the walls, if you have nothing ovalue to add
Wev'e been through this countless times.
I've said this over and over again and you keep ignoring it.
Yes, they're moving from being directly allied with the west, to not being so allied.
They're moving towards being allied with an enemy
It’s a real shame the Gülenist coup failed a few years back
Of the West.
I still think that was a faked coup @Sawyer42
which is why trying to have them not move too far towards russia makes sense
To secure his position.
Yet you're not doing that. @leavethisbotnet
@Nathan James 123 I think it was a real coup where Erdogan forced their hand before they were ready. But point taken
You're allowing them to go in fact.
Hmm, that's a possibility @Sawyer42
I remember watching it live, it was beautiful tbh
It was
I’ve been watching a lot of the HK stuff recently
That’s a real tragedy
I've not been watching too much of it, but I agree it's a tradegy
Shame the US is too spineless to do anything
Tf can they do?
China Uncensored on YouTube has been doing amazing coverage and getting totally shellacked by the algorithms for it
Add more tariffs?
Yeah, I’ve lost a lot of respect for Trump over his inability or unwillingness to say shit about China
There's a merit to the position that they're lost cause, but there's also merit to the position that we should try to keep them going too far towards Russia.
If you refuse to acknowledge that there isn't one objectively 100% correct opinion, you might be mentally stunted
Intelligence. Support for the protesters. Talking about it in the UN. Stating Hong Kong is under occupation
Agreed. @Sawyer42
What little respect I had for him the first place, that is.
like the UN would do anything.
International opinion means something @Sire Fagsalot
And is the first step towards action