Yes, they're moving from being directly allied with the west, to not being so allied.

They're moving towards being allied with an enemy

It’s a real shame the Gülenist coup failed a few years back

Of the West.

I still think that was a faked coup @Sawyer42

which is why trying to have them not move too far towards russia makes sense

To secure his position.

Yet you're not doing that. @leavethisbotnet

@Nathan James 123 I think it was a real coup where Erdogan forced their hand before they were ready. But point taken

You're allowing them to go in fact.

Hmm, that's a possibility @Sawyer42

I remember watching it live, it was beautiful tbh

It was

I’ve been watching a lot of the HK stuff recently

That’s a real tragedy

I've not been watching too much of it, but I agree it's a tradegy

Shame the US is too spineless to do anything

Tf can they do?

China Uncensored on YouTube has been doing amazing coverage and getting totally shellacked by the algorithms for it

Add more tariffs?

Yeah, I’ve lost a lot of respect for Trump over his inability or unwillingness to say shit about China

There's a merit to the position that they're lost cause, but there's also merit to the position that we should try to keep them going too far towards Russia.
If you refuse to acknowledge that there isn't one objectively 100% correct opinion, you might be mentally stunted

Intelligence. Support for the protesters. Talking about it in the UN. Stating Hong Kong is under occupation

@Sire Fagsalot

Agreed. @Sawyer42

What little respect I had for him the first place, that is.

like the UN would do anything.

International opinion means something @Sire Fagsalot

And is the first step towards action

Our business interestes have been totally captured by China tho

It's better than doing literally nothing.

Which really limits the US Govts ability to do anything

There isn't a chance anyone's going to do anything besides give China a slap on the wrist because that's all they can really do.

To an extent, the US shouldn't have been picking fights with the EU either @Sawyer42

Needless, pointless tariffs

The UN didn't do sht for Tibet. Only India can save them now <:spurdo:500782204788670474>

Nah, the UN is worthless

Aren't they begging for money?

@Sire Fagsalot we can shine a spotlight on what China is doing in Xinjiang which will really hurt their image abroad

If it didn't exist, the states would express their displeasure at events in Hong Kong in other ways than in UN

Eat. 3.7 million people in camps