Undercut Huawei and retain your influence there

The only way to do that. Subsidies

https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360054107691-YouTube-links-being-downgraded

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Exactly like the Chinese are doing.

You guys have to make your tech cheap too

No disagreement

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Economies of scale @beatless

It will get cheaper as they make more of it

Also the subsidies will allow the companies to sell them at a loss

To undercut China

The ONLY way you're going to beat China is by playing at their game.

Yes!

Your "competition" doesn't work when China is subsidising their tech.

You MUST compete and do the same.

At a massive loss too

Like solar, lots of cheap chinese tech in the market compared to expensive western tech

Yep to both of you @beatless @Sawyer42

Well we do the R&D

They steal it

And manufacture it cheaper

Sell it even cheaper with subsidies

Yep

Yeah, hence western corps should invest in other countries rather than china. India perhaps?

This is an area where I think exposing some of the CCPs excesses in Xinjiang would help

https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/18/huawei-base-stations-shipment-global/

You've got some catching up to do.

Nobody likes concentration camps

And it’s one of the strongest cards we have to play against them

Cause we need to make the argument domestically why we need to subsidize and beat the Chinese

I hate to say it but we need something like Cold War 2

Yep, you do

Yeah a cold war 2...

Their an existential threat and we need to start treating them that way

That'll end well.

They’re

First one did @Sire Fagsalot

It ended poorly for the Soviet’s

The Chinese might win in 50-100 years

But we’ll lose if we allow status quo