Yep to both of you @beatless @Sawyer42

Well we do the R&D

They steal it

And manufacture it cheaper

Sell it even cheaper with subsidies

Yep

Yeah, hence western corps should invest in other countries rather than china. India perhaps?

This is an area where I think exposing some of the CCPs excesses in Xinjiang would help

https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/18/huawei-base-stations-shipment-global/

You've got some catching up to do.

Nobody likes concentration camps

And it’s one of the strongest cards we have to play against them

Cause we need to make the argument domestically why we need to subsidize and beat the Chinese

I hate to say it but we need something like Cold War 2

Yep, you do

Yeah a cold war 2...

Their an existential threat and we need to start treating them that way

That'll end well.

They’re

First one did @Sire Fagsalot

It ended poorly for the Soviet’s

The Chinese might win in 50-100 years

But we’ll lose if we allow status quo

The Chinese are already beating the USA in some tech fields

They're catching up quickly as well

I'm not very optimistic though. China's reach is deeper than america can ever hope to accomplish

We get weaker everyday

I wouldn't call years and years of fear of world nuclear destruction with a few close calls 'ending well'

American has FAR more friendly

Why? @Sire Fagsalot

War didn't happen

The One Belt One Road initiative

China is also quite fragile.

The USA won.

All of China’s neighbors hate them

There was a case where nuclear war almost happened because of a glitch

They're shifting towards a service based economy @leavethisbotnet

Honestly

But it didn't @Sire Fagsalot

kek

China is too reliant on exports