Message from @Sawyer42

Discord ID: 631889170939510795


2019-10-10 16:19:54 UTC  

But, I think the US could have a massive impact on 5G deployment in the EU

2019-10-10 16:20:05 UTC  

Make CISCO go directly to each COUNTRY, not to the EU.

2019-10-10 16:20:06 UTC  

Agreed

2019-10-10 16:20:17 UTC  

Like Huawei is doing

2019-10-10 16:20:19 UTC  

EU countries have leanience inside the EU and are seperate from the EU

2019-10-10 16:20:20 UTC  

Exactly that.

2019-10-10 16:20:31 UTC  

The Chinese have innovated in that regard I will say

2019-10-10 16:20:44 UTC  

Undercut Huawei and retain your influence there

2019-10-10 16:20:52 UTC  

The only way to do that. Subsidies

2019-10-10 16:20:58 UTC  

๐Ÿ‘†

2019-10-10 16:20:59 UTC  

Exactly like the Chinese are doing.

2019-10-10 16:21:00 UTC  

You guys have to make your tech cheap too

2019-10-10 16:21:01 UTC  

No disagreement

2019-10-10 16:21:03 UTC  

discord fuckery

2019-10-10 16:21:14 UTC  

Economies of scale @beatless

2019-10-10 16:21:19 UTC  

It will get cheaper as they make more of it

2019-10-10 16:21:33 UTC  

Also the subsidies will allow the companies to sell them at a loss

2019-10-10 16:21:35 UTC  

To undercut China

2019-10-10 16:21:50 UTC  

The ONLY way you're going to beat China is by playing at their game.

2019-10-10 16:21:58 UTC  

Yes!

2019-10-10 16:22:09 UTC  

Your "competition" doesn't work when China is subsidising their tech.

2019-10-10 16:22:16 UTC  

You MUST compete and do the same.

2019-10-10 16:22:22 UTC  

At a massive loss too

2019-10-10 16:22:23 UTC  

Like solar, lots of cheap chinese tech in the market compared to expensive western tech

2019-10-10 16:22:33 UTC  

Yep to both of you @beatless @Sawyer42

2019-10-10 16:22:36 UTC  

Well we do the R&D

2019-10-10 16:22:40 UTC  

They steal it

2019-10-10 16:22:49 UTC  

And manufacture it cheaper

2019-10-10 16:22:50 UTC  

Sell it even cheaper with subsidies

2019-10-10 16:22:51 UTC  

Yep

2019-10-10 16:23:14 UTC  

Yeah, hence western corps should invest in other countries rather than china. India perhaps?

2019-10-10 16:23:18 UTC  

This is an area where I think exposing some of the CCPs excesses in Xinjiang would help

2019-10-10 16:23:25 UTC  

You've got some catching up to do.

2019-10-10 16:23:28 UTC  

Nobody likes concentration camps

2019-10-10 16:23:41 UTC  

And itโ€™s one of the strongest cards we have to play against them

2019-10-10 16:24:06 UTC  

Cause we need to make the argument domestically why we need to subsidize and beat the Chinese

2019-10-10 16:24:20 UTC  

I hate to say it but we need something like Cold War 2

2019-10-10 16:24:29 UTC  

Yep, you do

2019-10-10 16:24:52 UTC  

Yeah a cold war 2...