No I like FPTP

it gives legitimacy to the winner

proportional representation for me tbh

What? US has FPTP?

where?

by making wins look larger than they are

but it @Nathan James 123 I do see the argument for proportional as it relates to strengthening Policial parties

afaik if nobody wins presidentials, electors have free hand

or is that not so?

You need to break out of the two party system

Which is causing you so many issues.

You better shut your white male mouth up right FUCKING now

You can only vote on either side of the extreme spectrum

There's no middle-ground

Which is your fundamental problem

And why Russia was so effective in 2016

You're too divided.

And that shows in your parties

@Nathan James 123 thats because the parties are too weak

@Nathan James 123 they never used to be so insne

Which I think stems from their extremism

They were never this extreme either

YOU'RE EXTREME. YOU THINK LATINOS AT THE BOARDER SHOULD BE GASSED

As they've moved further to the left and the right, they've weakened and discontent has risen

and I think your discounting the idea that in the US system Proportional representation would lead to a BUNCH of extreme parties instead of Two large parties who have to marginalize their radicals @Nathan James 123

I do take your point

Honestly, both systems have their merits

Well, there would be more centre learning parties people could vote for. Rather than voting for one party and getting open borders, and the other offering closed borders

A nice middle ground can be found

@Nathan James 123 I think the weakening of the parties happened first, then the extremeism came in

Possibly so

A combination of one proportional and one majority chamber of parliament is a decent solution

I don't know how that would work tbh @leavethisbotnet

You have one chamber that is voted in with proportional system

There is no closed border party. Trump at no point even suggested ending immigration just illegal immigration.

you have second chamber (like senate) that is voted in with mojority voting system

like FPTP, but less retarded

You understood my poin though @Jym

The message I was conveying

Would they have equal power? @leavethisbotnet

Honestly the Republicans are the centrist party at this point