Message from @Wizard_of_The_West

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2019-10-10 18:11:00 UTC  

That and we have those in power and influence not elected into their positions.

2019-10-10 18:11:07 UTC  

federal judges are appointed by democratically elected officials though

2019-10-10 18:11:29 UTC  

do I need to go over why that doesn't mean dick, again?

2019-10-10 18:11:34 UTC  

Indirectly it is, but it's not a Democratic process in itself.

2019-10-10 18:12:49 UTC  

people are making decisions by virtue of having been empowered by the process

2019-10-10 18:13:22 UTC  

If you wanted the appointment process to be more Democratic the judges would be chosen by the people for review instead of the President

2019-10-10 18:13:46 UTC  

But that would remove the checks and balances

2019-10-10 18:14:16 UTC  

yeah also would result in more partisanship in the courts than there already is

2019-10-10 18:14:18 UTC  

Anything out of the Executive is not Democratic in nature and is Authoritarian.

2019-10-10 18:14:29 UTC  

how so

2019-10-10 18:14:48 UTC  

I'd bet money no one who voted for the Republican members of congress during Obummer's last term was exactly consulted before they just sat on their hands and effectively blocked the president's SCOTUS judge pick for an entire fucking year

2019-10-10 18:15:08 UTC  

Because the President is the sole decider of the Executive, even if his cabinet votes for him to not appoint someone he can do it irregardless.

2019-10-10 18:15:45 UTC  

the president was given that power by a democratic process though

2019-10-10 18:15:48 UTC  

a fairly strange one

2019-10-10 18:15:51 UTC  

but still

2019-10-10 18:16:01 UTC  

An entire party of congress just refused to do their jobs for an entire year

2019-10-10 18:16:13 UTC  

**NOT A DEMOCRACY** REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

2019-10-10 18:16:21 UTC  

pretty sure that wasn't mentioned on the ballots

2019-10-10 18:16:41 UTC  

you're the only one reeing about anything here bucko

2019-10-10 18:16:53 UTC  

everyone else is just having a conversation

2019-10-10 18:17:33 UTC  

@Death in June The President once elected is no longer bound to the will of the people. Which is why everyone should be very skeptical of the Presidents actions.

2019-10-10 18:17:45 UTC  

that goes for any sort of representative

2019-10-10 18:17:49 UTC  

Impeachment? What? @Wizard_of_The_West

2019-10-10 18:17:57 UTC  

He is bound by the will of the people kek

2019-10-10 18:18:05 UTC  

@Nathan James 123 That's not the intent of impeachment

2019-10-10 18:18:07 UTC  

And now watch Mitch McConnel just say out loud "yeah, we lied our asses off about why we didn't have a hearing and sat on our asses. deal with it"

2019-10-10 18:18:14 UTC  

Yet the ability is there <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-10-10 18:18:18 UTC  

So in reality, he is.

2019-10-10 18:18:26 UTC  

in any case executive power is where real political power lies

2019-10-10 18:18:37 UTC  

Impeachment is for when the President abandons his Oath or uses his powers to corrupt the intent of his office.

2019-10-10 18:19:15 UTC  

i mean from a technical standpoint you could argue the most powerful position in the US govt. is speaker of the house; they get control over a lot of things

2019-10-10 18:19:41 UTC  

especially with regards to money

2019-10-10 18:19:43 UTC  

iirc

2019-10-10 18:20:04 UTC  

yeah no thats right; all revenue bills have to come from the house

2019-10-10 18:20:07 UTC  

most powerful position in the us isn't in the government

2019-10-10 18:20:22 UTC  

thats a whole other issue

2019-10-10 18:20:49 UTC  

we need to get money out of our political system ASAP; one of the few things i agree with AOC on

2019-10-10 18:21:20 UTC  

gluck

2019-10-10 18:21:32 UTC  

dont worry it wont happen

2019-10-10 18:21:35 UTC  

oh yeah, how's that AOC/Ted Cruz lobbyist regulation going?

2019-10-10 18:21:35 UTC  

Not really. You just need to add some limits on it @W1NT3R1SC0MING