But just because they offered to give it away doesn’t mean people are just open to take it

Israel clearly wants compensation for giving away their territory, even if that territory is not advantageous or strategically useful to them.

It isn’t their fault if they want to protect it despite this

that was never an element of my dispute. I don't know or care who's right or wrong about it, I'm just saying claiming the Assad Gov't is "expansionist" over a tiny stain of land that was once theirs and they sorta maybe want back is fucking silly

Tbh I would consider it expansionist

Not because it’s necessarily wrong but because it’s literally true

its not even a net expansion though, is it.

Once someone else owns the land you aren’t just entitled to get it back just because you owned it before

Someone else owned it before the Syrians, and someone else before them.

entitlement has nothing to do with it, I'm just saying geometrically it doesn't make sense to call it an expansion

Yet we don’t hear Alexander the great or the romans rising from their graves to pitch a fit over it

im cracking up. Trump is raping the dems with a 2 foot dildo

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oh? what'd they do now?

This is beyond getting into *how* they lost it. Which was picking a fight where they had massive numerical superiority and getting their ass kicked.....

yeah, again, who's right or wrong had no bearing on my claim

it was just a matter of vocabulary

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Very cool tom

just seems like willy-nilly slapping the title of "expansionist" on the Syrian government is a hand-wringing way of casting them in the same net as the soviets, nazis or arguabley Saddam back before Bush Sr handed him his first ass whooping

Sure he was wrong on that point. Just saying Syria's claim ain't that good. If you kick in my door then drop your wallet while running away from my 12 gauge burglar alarm I say it is mine.

indeed, which is why I also say the whole of the 1967 borders drawn at the conclusion of the conflict are perfectly legitimate

just, you know, nothing after that

but of course, World War 2 had ended only about 20 years prior, and no one wanted to be the guy to tell the formerly oppressed ethnic minority "no"

even after they decided they wanted to sit at the "big states table"

you know, with the rest of the big nations, that can take criticism

We're talking about different wars. The Yom Kippur War was in '73....

wait, was it? I thought Syria had lost Golan when it played third wheel to Egypt and Jordan and such

or did those conflicts just merge in my head after a while

Besides

Israel, just as much now as it was then, is it’s own state

If we are going to get into it neither of those wars were aggravated by israel

Jerusalem is a jewish city

If they want to engage in territorial conflicts, nothing is and should be stopping them.
You know, aside from other states against them.

The only reason the Arabs had it was because the turks chased them out

Hell one of them was so supremely dishonorable they attacked during a holy weekend when they knew fewer forces would be present

You cant have religious leaders proclaim that Hitler was right about the jews and not get compared to the nazis

chicken and egg dillemma, that. but granted, Egypt and Jordan did shoot first

be mizrahi Jew
Jerusalem is most important city
Jerusalem is ruled by Muslim majority 3/2
Not even allowed in my own temple
They claimed it
Only thing allowed to me is a wall
They won’t repair the wall
I can’t repair it either, they say it’s part of the temple
mfw

I dont know if you know this

But Judaism predates islam