like cost of living, membership of europe, etc

ok, and how do you propose we do that when everyone else is fucking reeing

and that perrennial favourite "where the fuck are we going to get all the electricity from?"

> ok, and how do you propose we do that when everyone else is fucking reeing

how does questioning things there is a majority consensus for over decades, help the reeee situation exactly?

if you succeed it just increases the ree

by making them increasingly more insufferable

Stop doing that, wladfa. Just because someone respond to a point doesn't mean yo have to keep repeating it untl they do

theyre stuck in a loop at the moment, the issues almost don't matter at all - parliament is in stalemate with a party unable to act, and several others who only want to talk about how to remove it and install themselves. and thats where we are

@juryrigging that's the first time i reposted for someone to reply to a thing - the other times I was highlighting different parts

@system11 yes, and we can't move on, i'm talking about a situation where we're stuck in a constant loop

we would need to do something to end the loop

if your question is how do we make the politicians sane, short of massive protests and civil disobedience which people just aren't into these days when theyre focused on paying the bills and not rocking the boat, there is nothing we can do until they allow us an election

and pulling something that is a feather in their cap and bitch slapping it might bring them back to the table

i'm not asking a question

i'm proposing a political action by them in order to move forward

I think i was pretty clear about that but I apologise if I wasnt

ok, your suggestion was to re-open a pointless but potentially incendiary debate to get them talking again?

not just to get them talking again, but to bring them back to sanity

as I said, I agree with the current position of the law

but there are still arguments that exist that are valid

i dont see how that will add any sanity, it will just be another thing for them to pointlessly bicker about, even if you had the power to make parties talk about a new subject. which you don't, and they don't want to anyway, because it's all about trying to bring down boris.

well that and killing brexit. the whole debate around political language is just them trying to score points against boris

they want to get rid of him because they know theyll lose the election if he's still there

So here's the thing, if one were to inject some bullshit like this as an amendment into a bill that was going to be rushed

everything else is pantomime and point scoring to support the anti-brexit anti-boris cause of the combined left, or the 'get it done' from whats left of the tories

then 1: it would cause people to need to make real arguments rather than just party politics

you have no influence whatsoever, i have no influence whatsoever, and the only people who do (including media) are just 100% absorbed by brexit/boris. and until someone loses that's what you're getting

right, so lets just shut this whole channel down then

because none of us have no influence

or is this a place to discuss ideas of what could be done

you had an idea and i explained why i think it wont work

there, we discussed

and your last one was on how "you have no influence whatsoever"

which is an entirely moronic idea, because it suggests that in the end, we have no influence so we should just stop talking

there, now we've discussed

people often talk about things they cannot change

it's actually a very effective way of psychologically managing it

right, so was the comment just for the sakes of?

actually if you have bags of money apparently you can buy the supreme court now, that might be something

I do not I'm afraid