Message from @notaglobe

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2019-10-04 23:16:14 UTC  

Rather than toss out the whole system because we're in a tight spot.

2019-10-04 23:16:24 UTC  

"The United Kingdom does not have a constitution
The UK has no written constitution. Nor does England have a constitution, neither written nor formulated. The United Kingdom is one of the few countries of the world that does not have a written constitution: it just has what is known as an "uncodified constitution".
Thus the only "British Constitution" that exists is a set of rules and regulations constituted by jurisprudence and laws (English and Scottish law), and by various treaties and international agreements to which the United Kingdom has signed up. This uncodified constitution has largely developed out of historic English law, since many of its founding principles and essential laws go back to charters and bills that were drawn up by the English parliament long before the creation of the United Kingdom. "

2019-10-04 23:16:57 UTC  

I'm going to ask you not use wikipedia

2019-10-04 23:17:00 UTC  

We use some of the Magna Carta

2019-10-04 23:17:09 UTC  

Not all of it

2019-10-04 23:17:21 UTC  

right so this statement is wrong
> We don't use the Magna Carta anymore

2019-10-04 23:17:24 UTC  

we do

2019-10-04 23:17:30 UTC  

it's still a part of our legal system

2019-10-04 23:17:34 UTC  

That wasn't wiki either

2019-10-04 23:17:40 UTC  

thank god

2019-10-04 23:17:49 UTC  

I used this

2019-10-04 23:18:18 UTC  

very reputable

2019-10-04 23:18:56 UTC  

Ok, Find me one source which says we have a codified constitution

2019-10-04 23:19:55 UTC  

I said it was written

2019-10-04 23:20:03 UTC  

and it is

2019-10-04 23:20:21 UTC  

our constitution isn't a single document

2019-10-04 23:20:25 UTC  

it's the body of work

2019-10-04 23:20:29 UTC  

the whole thing

2019-10-04 23:20:53 UTC  

You did also say it was codifed.

2019-10-04 23:21:15 UTC  

then i apologise

2019-10-04 23:21:16 UTC  

wladfaToday at 00:13
but it is codified

2019-10-04 23:21:57 UTC  

So, we are on the same page that we have a written, uncodified cnstitution?

2019-10-04 23:22:25 UTC  

yep

2019-10-04 23:23:04 UTC  

however I do believe we should have a second standard of law that is constitutional law, that is harder to adjust than normal law

2019-10-04 23:23:15 UTC  

but I don't know if that takes us out of the realm that we're currently in

2019-10-04 23:23:23 UTC  

I think it would be workable to allow us the best of both

2019-10-04 23:24:08 UTC  

where we can have things like FOS and say for example; it needed to have a super majority in the HOC & a ref that must be immediately implemented to modify

2019-10-04 23:24:17 UTC  

idk, just an idea in my head

2019-10-04 23:29:07 UTC  

We need something that enforces parliament is lent its sovereignty by the people.

2019-10-04 23:47:04 UTC  

Like a codified constitution?

2019-10-05 00:03:49 UTC  

We used to have that, it was called the bill of rights, then it got amended in parliament many many times

2019-10-05 00:04:39 UTC  

1689

2019-10-05 00:07:01 UTC  

An uncodfied constitution can have such a thing added, just as parts of it devolved power through different docments.

The Bill of Rights placed sovereignty in the hands of parliament and the gentry, iirc, although it did spell out rights for the common man. Someone told me once, and I'm thinking it must have been the comments of a livestream somewhere because I havent seen it since and it was only n small comments with no real substance, that many of the amendments aren't lawful as they didn't go through proper parliamentary process.

2019-10-05 00:09:23 UTC  

I don't mind a constitution proper, but we keep the monarchy <:pepe:312704217028493312>

2019-10-05 01:35:28 UTC  

does anyone have a link to a news story that Sargon bragged about older colonies preferring British rule to self-governance?

2019-10-05 02:33:59 UTC  

WEll there are 14 colonies that still fall under British rule 🤔

2019-10-05 02:34:16 UTC  

They rule themselves for the most part but defence and foreign policy is determined by the UK