Message from @system11

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2019-10-08 17:45:53 UTC  

They already have real political power

2019-10-08 17:46:23 UTC  

no they dont, extinction rebellion are fringe, its the corprate greta-train you need to worry about

2019-10-08 17:46:56 UTC  

ANd no, you couldn't. Replacing every petrol and diesel car in the UK with a Jaguar iPace would cost in the region of a trillion pounds

2019-10-08 17:47:02 UTC  

when i give ER the thanos gauntlet, then you can start to worry because they're going to mash that 50% button over and over

2019-10-08 17:47:20 UTC  

hypothetically speaking, best case scenario is a government incentive to buy electric

2019-10-08 17:47:25 UTC  

norway style

2019-10-08 17:47:31 UTC  

That's completely unfair, Crafty

2019-10-08 17:47:48 UTC  

i' m not saying what i want/agree with, i'm saying from their point of view

2019-10-08 17:47:49 UTC  

You're taxing the poor to give to the rich

2019-10-08 17:48:11 UTC  

Moving to electric cars right now prices the poor out of being able to travel

2019-10-08 17:48:19 UTC  

i wonder how much it would cost for the govt to subsidise every car switch to an electric one, footing the bill of whatever the equivalent model is to what the people would have bought instead

2019-10-08 17:48:43 UTC  

Ehhh... the new libdem leadership are undoubtedly sympathetic with ER but they're aren't going to ban diesel vehicles anytime soon

2019-10-08 17:48:46 UTC  

about a trillion pounds, system11

2019-10-08 17:48:47 UTC  

told you

2019-10-08 17:48:48 UTC  

so a fiat 500 buyer gets subsidised to buy a nissan leaf, or whatever

2019-10-08 17:48:58 UTC  

no, that was jaguar ipaces, those are expensive

2019-10-08 17:49:09 UTC  

ok, 750 billion then

2019-10-08 17:49:24 UTC  

leafs are about 30k unsubsidised

2019-10-08 17:49:28 UTC  

in many cases the difference is going to be 2-5k

2019-10-08 17:49:33 UTC  

nope

2019-10-08 17:49:39 UTC  

a leaf is 30k

2019-10-08 17:49:41 UTC  

what

2019-10-08 17:49:43 UTC  

fucking hell

2019-10-08 17:49:48 UTC  

my car cost £4500, that's a £25k difference

2019-10-08 17:49:53 UTC  

many people buy cars in the sub £1000 range

2019-10-08 17:49:56 UTC  

whats the cheapest electric car atm?

2019-10-08 17:50:11 UTC  

about £30k

2019-10-08 17:50:15 UTC  

oh dear

2019-10-08 17:50:18 UTC  

And they have a lifespan of 7 years

2019-10-08 17:50:22 UTC  

typically

2019-10-08 17:50:26 UTC  

i honestly didnt realise theyre that overpriced

2019-10-08 17:50:31 UTC  

Aye

2019-10-08 17:50:49 UTC  

i looked at the ipace cost which isnt a million miles from other jaguars and assumed it was generally a small mark up

2019-10-08 17:51:18 UTC  

Imagine all the lorries having to switch to electric

2019-10-08 17:51:23 UTC  

well a) it isn't a small markup, and b) only a tiny fraction of the uk public buy their cars new

2019-10-08 17:51:38 UTC  

pretty sure they start at a lot less than £30k

2019-10-08 17:51:39 UTC  

though

2019-10-08 17:51:41 UTC  

It would be far easier, far cheaper, and far fairer to force all freight and public transport to switch to electric

2019-10-08 17:51:41 UTC  

i think battery leasing is going to be inevitable

2019-10-08 17:51:46 UTC  

not saying they're good

2019-10-08 17:52:20 UTC  

nobody has really thought about that one very much - what do you do with millions of used car batteries