Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-09 14:03:45 UTC  

IE, the traffic isn't encryted. The software is years out of date. It can't be updated.

2019-10-09 14:03:46 UTC  

Etc

2019-10-09 14:03:56 UTC  

Only way to be safe is not to use the IOT, which will become increasingly difficult unto the point at which you physically cannot

2019-10-09 14:04:10 UTC  

Same slippery slope as work/transactions

2019-10-09 14:04:14 UTC  

Not as many and 95% of them are natted so things can't route to them which vastly reduces their risk level

2019-10-09 14:04:48 UTC  

IoT security will improve

2019-10-09 14:04:50 UTC  

It already is

2019-10-09 14:05:02 UTC  

If we moved to the full ipv6 world that's when the shit really hits the fan

2019-10-09 14:05:04 UTC  

Matter of time before they make smartmeters mandatory for all new homes, and all new tenants

2019-10-09 14:05:09 UTC  

Ditto with smartcars

2019-10-09 14:05:17 UTC  

If we moved to IPv6, little would change

2019-10-09 14:05:26 UTC  

Except data would flow a little faster

2019-10-09 14:05:35 UTC  

Due to new routing protocols in IPv6

2019-10-09 14:05:38 UTC  

That's it.

2019-10-09 14:06:04 UTC  

Depends, isps might just start giving you real ipv6 ips per device which aren't natting

2019-10-09 14:06:17 UTC  

ISPs only give you one IP address.

2019-10-09 14:06:37 UTC  

Their routers have natting built-in

2019-10-09 14:06:43 UTC  

The ones they provide to you

2019-10-09 14:06:45 UTC  

With ipv6 they could opt not to, there are lots of ips, that was the whole point

2019-10-09 14:06:59 UTC  

They *could*, but won't

2019-10-09 14:07:08 UTC  

Just becuase they don't need to be effecient, doesn't mean they won't be

2019-10-09 14:07:11 UTC  

You can already request multiple external ips with some providers

2019-10-09 14:07:19 UTC  

At a cost, yes

2019-10-09 14:09:31 UTC  

5g could make the whole ISP providing your router an IP address thing irrelevent

2019-10-09 14:09:40 UTC  

No it wont

2019-10-09 14:10:13 UTC  

5G connects to the country networking infrastructure like every other networked device.

2019-10-09 14:10:34 UTC  

Which is connected to the world

2019-10-09 14:10:43 UTC  

Thus must run on the same standards and principles as the rest of the planet

2019-10-09 14:10:50 UTC  

Correct, but does not operate via your home router

2019-10-09 14:11:02 UTC  

It operates on cell towers

2019-10-09 14:11:05 UTC  

Which act as routers

2019-10-09 14:11:29 UTC  

And through Chinese contracts if I'm not mistaken

2019-10-09 14:11:45 UTC  

Through Chinese made hardware in some places

2019-10-09 14:11:45 UTC  

😉

2019-10-09 14:12:25 UTC  

Exactly, so if it's operating via a cell tower it's not operating via your home router

2019-10-09 14:12:39 UTC  

Cell towers and routers run on the same princples fundamentally

2019-10-09 14:12:50 UTC  

And act the same in practice

2019-10-09 14:13:04 UTC  

"5g could make the whole ISP providing your router an IP address thing irrelevent"

2019-10-09 14:13:48 UTC  

Ah sorry, I go on tangents

2019-10-09 14:14:00 UTC  

Not really, since there's limited bandwidths on each cell towers

2019-10-09 14:14:22 UTC  

You would need more towers in a smaller area, say if everyone was using 5G rather than a wired connection, or wifi