Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-09 13:58:45 UTC  

Nope

2019-10-09 13:58:48 UTC  

Yes.

2019-10-09 13:59:08 UTC  

Non-tagged packets will just be blocked/logged at an infrastructure level

2019-10-09 13:59:18 UTC  

By whom?

2019-10-09 13:59:20 UTC  

Your ISP?

2019-10-09 13:59:31 UTC  

No, by the infrastructure companies

2019-10-09 13:59:46 UTC  

So then fundamental parts of the internet stop working..

2019-10-09 13:59:48 UTC  

Yeah, alright.

2019-10-09 13:59:49 UTC  

Yep

2019-10-09 13:59:54 UTC  

That's what they're working towads

2019-10-09 13:59:54 UTC  

Not happening

2019-10-09 14:00:01 UTC  

They can't "work towards" that

2019-10-09 14:00:09 UTC  

The fundamental protocols need to be changed

2019-10-09 14:00:11 UTC  

And they're not

2019-10-09 14:00:16 UTC  

They will

2019-10-09 14:00:22 UTC  

No they won't.

2019-10-09 14:00:33 UTC  

You realise how hard it was to move people from IPv4 to 6?

2019-10-09 14:00:39 UTC  

The fundamental protocols are less than 50 years old, they will change

2019-10-09 14:00:39 UTC  

What you're saying is even harder than that

2019-10-09 14:00:51 UTC  

They will be updated.

2019-10-09 14:00:53 UTC  

Sure.

2019-10-09 14:01:20 UTC  

Tunneling is a fundamental principle of TCP / IP

2019-10-09 14:01:26 UTC  

That's NOT going to change

2019-10-09 14:01:33 UTC  

People still aren't using ipv6 much

2019-10-09 14:01:41 UTC  

People don't need to

2019-10-09 14:01:42 UTC  

They are, just without realising it

2019-10-09 14:01:58 UTC  

If you're using BT, chances are you have an IPv6 address

2019-10-09 14:02:02 UTC  

As well as an IPv4

2019-10-09 14:02:51 UTC  

I turn it off where I can, avoid the Internet Of Hacked Things

2019-10-09 14:03:10 UTC  

You'll still have the same IoT issues using IPv4 lmao

2019-10-09 14:03:24 UTC  

Security issues in IoT come from a fundamental lack of security in their design

2019-10-09 14:03:45 UTC  

IE, the traffic isn't encryted. The software is years out of date. It can't be updated.

2019-10-09 14:03:46 UTC  

Etc

2019-10-09 14:03:56 UTC  

Only way to be safe is not to use the IOT, which will become increasingly difficult unto the point at which you physically cannot

2019-10-09 14:04:10 UTC  

Same slippery slope as work/transactions

2019-10-09 14:04:14 UTC  

Not as many and 95% of them are natted so things can't route to them which vastly reduces their risk level

2019-10-09 14:04:48 UTC  

IoT security will improve

2019-10-09 14:04:50 UTC  

It already is

2019-10-09 14:05:02 UTC  

If we moved to the full ipv6 world that's when the shit really hits the fan

2019-10-09 14:05:04 UTC  

Matter of time before they make smartmeters mandatory for all new homes, and all new tenants

2019-10-09 14:05:09 UTC  

Ditto with smartcars