Message from @Benjamin Henry

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2019-10-10 05:26:45 UTC  

more or less

2019-10-10 05:26:46 UTC  

Those arguments don't follow

2019-10-10 05:27:07 UTC  

They're not connected in the way you think they are

2019-10-10 05:27:50 UTC  

I'm trying to show you how they can be correlated, and not part of a causal chain

2019-10-10 05:28:05 UTC  

yeah they can be

2019-10-10 05:28:11 UTC  

But they aren't

2019-10-10 05:28:18 UTC  

they are correlated

2019-10-10 05:28:26 UTC  

Correlated, yes

2019-10-10 05:28:37 UTC  

Not necessarily caused

2019-10-10 05:28:53 UTC  

not necessarily caused

2019-10-10 05:29:02 UTC  

but i believe that they are

2019-10-10 05:29:17 UTC  

That's your perspective. I don't think they are

2019-10-10 05:29:47 UTC  

Maybe show something more than just opinion then?

2019-10-10 05:30:29 UTC  

i think the causal link between iq and economic success is clear

2019-10-10 05:30:48 UTC  

It's absolutely not clear

2019-10-10 05:31:03 UTC  

iq measures abstract reasoning, a tool that is useful in many high paying professions

2019-10-10 05:31:16 UTC  

In order to prove causation, you have to show the direct link between being good at taking IQ tests to making more money

2019-10-10 05:31:25 UTC  

show the direct link how

2019-10-10 05:31:53 UTC  

You have to show how being good at taking IQ tests somehow directly translates into making money

2019-10-10 05:31:57 UTC  

how

2019-10-10 05:32:22 UTC  

Are these people receiving money based on their IQ test performance?

2019-10-10 05:32:52 UTC  

you are just saying the same thing over and over again without elaborating on how one would show this

2019-10-10 05:33:41 UTC  

Yeah, because you can't. Economic success is so far downstream of taking an IQ test that you can't show that link

2019-10-10 05:34:04 UTC  

lol

2019-10-10 05:34:09 UTC  

Like I said, you might as well be saying that people who can recite the alphabet backwards are more economically successful

2019-10-10 05:34:11 UTC  

and the hand is shown

2019-10-10 05:34:29 UTC  

People who are good knife-throwers are more economically successful

2019-10-10 05:34:47 UTC  

People who wore shirt sizes too big for them in high school

2019-10-10 05:34:54 UTC  

anyone remember the movie "The Madness of King George" ? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZvg7SR_DE

2019-10-10 05:35:06 UTC  

Nigel Hawthorne was great in this

2019-10-10 05:35:07 UTC  

Your argument doesn't follow

2019-10-10 05:35:15 UTC  

i don't think these variables are equivalent to iq in this regard

2019-10-10 05:35:26 UTC  

there's a clearer causal link once can deduce through reason with iq

2019-10-10 05:35:27 UTC  

They're exactly as valid as IQ tests

2019-10-10 05:35:56 UTC  

People who wear glasses are more successful

2019-10-10 05:35:58 UTC  

but like a typical progressive, your entire shtick is to assume the progressive position as a default and to set the burden of proof for any opposing position so high it can't be met

2019-10-10 05:36:12 UTC  

People who part their hair in the middle instead of on the side

2019-10-10 05:37:14 UTC  

do you think the causal link between the way one parts their hair and income is as clear as the causal link between a measurement of one's ability to recognize patterns and apply reason and income?

2019-10-10 05:37:24 UTC  

Your argument is like the one that I used to hear about, if your second toe is longer than your big toe, you'll be the head of the household when you grow up

2019-10-10 05:37:34 UTC  

answer the question please

2019-10-10 05:37:41 UTC  

there's only one answer you can give if you're being honest