That's an example

You can be taught how to be good at taking IQ tests, too

Id say that you certainly have failed to demonstrate that culture is separate from race. And that Death in June has used evidence to demonstrate that failure. Also taking IQ tests regularly is not apart of any schools regimen... once again the amount of people that are doing what you suggest is not statistically significant

@UnScottable I don't know what you read back there, but culture is actually significantly different from race

if all you're pointing out is that they're test specific skills associated with iq tests this doesn't really change the fact that in order to solve the problems you still have to be able to apply abstract reasoning to find the patterns present

We were looking at two narrow measures - crime and IQ

you can become better by being more familiar with the kind of puzzle you are facing, but the core skills are still there

Maybe

and in any case with the samples we are using test familiarity is going to be very uniform across the test group

I don't know how you can think that

People are different from each other

yes

Kids put very different levels of effort into different things

but as far as i'm aware the vast majority of people who take iq tests do not prepare specifically for them or have taken them prior at appreciably different rates

They have very different priorities

I'm just pointing out how vague and not useful it is to single out IQ test scores

it's one of the main measurable differences between the groups we were talking about

Yeah, but it clearly has no effect on crime rates, according to the chart you put up there

wat

And if race = culture, then you'd probably have seen a correlation

But it isn't there

i never posted a chart that included the variables of iq and crime

Did you read the same chart we read?

Yeah, you posted a chart that showed the factors that affect crime

And IQ wasn't on there

yes

If IQ is a significant difference between races

Then it would likely be on the chart as well

what do you mean

Since race IS on there, the other things that "go with race" would ostensibly be on the chart as well

in a sense

look... the fact that in america around 7% of the population commit 50% of the rapes... has nothing to do with socioeconomic status

@UnScottable Get fucked, dude

You're out of place here

i need breakfast

Lol what do you mean by that

7% of the population doesn't "commit 50% of the rapes." CRIMINALS commit 50%, and actually 100%, of the rapes

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

What exactly is this chart supposed to show me?

in proportion, comparing the population size of whites and blacks. The ratio of blacks that commit violent crimes is much higher.

Looking at the statistic of rape... which is devoid of financial motive. We can see that this ratio is not due to just socioeconomic status