Message from @Joshu

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2019-10-12 14:58:27 UTC  

@Nathan James 123 I whole heartedly understand your argument here. Which is why i do believe that it is not just that women be given an easier way into the military when they are not just as suited for it (as a whole).

2019-10-12 14:59:12 UTC  

There's also the arguments which Joshu has made as to why they shouldn't be in front-line service and to an extent any kind of military service.

2019-10-12 15:01:20 UTC  

@Mavalance Also from what you said to Nathan you are looking at this from a purely mechanical point of view. Even a woman who is for the sake of argument identical to the average male recruit physically still wouldn't be as well suited since they don't have the psychology for it. Women are more prone to sympathy and caring as well as being more susceptible to psychological trauma.

2019-10-12 15:01:39 UTC  

Dont forget the logistics

2019-10-12 15:01:47 UTC  

There's also the argument of unit cohesion, which we haven't even touched

2019-10-12 15:01:50 UTC  

So many reasons

2019-10-12 15:01:50 UTC  

It's honestly the strongest arguement

2019-10-12 15:01:56 UTC  

A woman joining an eviroment dramatically changes that dynamic

2019-10-12 15:02:12 UTC  

It;s the arguement that for the most part isnt counterable with "But not all women"

2019-10-12 15:02:18 UTC  

Front-line relationships undermine combat effectiveness and risk lives

2019-10-12 15:02:31 UTC  

Front-line pregnancies reduce combat effectiveness and costs lives

2019-10-12 15:03:08 UTC  

You're also going to have different equipment requirements

2019-10-12 15:03:18 UTC  

Which is a logistics thing again

2019-10-12 15:03:19 UTC  

Women *mostly* won't be able to physically carry all the weight required

2019-10-12 15:03:26 UTC  

To an extent @Joshu

2019-10-12 15:03:32 UTC  

Women do in fact need different plate carriers

2019-10-12 15:03:34 UTC  

They have tits

2019-10-12 15:03:35 UTC  

Seriously

2019-10-12 15:03:53 UTC  

Which then means, either they go in with less, which cuts effectiness OR requires someone else in the section to carry that equipment

2019-10-12 15:03:56 UTC  

Which fatigues them.

2019-10-12 15:04:00 UTC  

Male plate carriers are really really unsuitable for a women's figure

2019-10-12 15:04:08 UTC  

From the point of view of them being in front-line, then yes, it does seem safe to bring them out of that area entirely. This is because it would just not be worth the investment. But, and i cannot say this enough, there are other departments for women to go into to where they can be of use. Support roles being one (even if it isn't in the military itself, but helping them)

2019-10-12 15:04:11 UTC  

Plus it's a lot of money to get all those custom pink rifles 😃

2019-10-12 15:04:19 UTC  

Like ive said

2019-10-12 15:04:25 UTC  

Women in non front line is absolutely fine

2019-10-12 15:04:35 UTC  

For the most part there is no real difference

2019-10-12 15:04:49 UTC  

If they're deployed into an enviroment where supplies could become an issue, then no.

2019-10-12 15:05:01 UTC  

The 'homefront' is where women should serve.

2019-10-12 15:05:02 UTC  

That's it.

2019-10-12 15:05:11 UTC  

For example, a drone pilot at an RAF base really doesnt affect the supply lines

2019-10-12 15:05:26 UTC  

Artillery are so far back it also doesnt matter

2019-10-12 15:05:28 UTC  

for example

2019-10-12 15:05:29 UTC  

Not to mention the post war recovery, if you have lost 50% of your male population then no big deal, you can bounce back in a generation or two. If you lose 50% of your female population though you are up shits creak.

2019-10-12 15:05:39 UTC  

Cooks

2019-10-12 15:05:44 UTC  

Armourers

2019-10-12 15:05:47 UTC  

We're already up shits creak @4SidedTriangle

2019-10-12 15:05:48 UTC  

Engineers

2019-10-12 15:05:52 UTC  

Etc

2019-10-12 15:05:53 UTC  

All fine

2019-10-12 15:05:57 UTC  

All roles which can require front-line service

2019-10-12 15:05:59 UTC  

Artillary also.