Message from @Dubdogelmo

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2019-10-16 14:39:30 UTC  

Moving us towards renewables is good anyway

2019-10-16 14:39:33 UTC  

For multiple reasons

2019-10-16 14:39:37 UTC  

in terms of kwh per dollar it is, admitedly it isn't the nightmare solar is

2019-10-16 14:39:44 UTC  

@ShardS while nuclear isn't renewable, you're not wrong

2019-10-16 14:39:46 UTC  

and has more room for improvement

2019-10-16 14:39:57 UTC  

And for wind and solar you will need new infrastructure which can store power for when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing

2019-10-16 14:40:01 UTC  

And the UK can be the hub for that improvement

2019-10-16 14:40:09 UTC  

@killerqwerty its reserves are so large it might as well be for the next few hundred lifetimes

2019-10-16 14:40:17 UTC  

As demand for Wind increases in the UK, the technology will be developed ideally by British firms to meet that demand

2019-10-16 14:40:18 UTC  

Win win.

2019-10-16 14:40:31 UTC  

Also, economies of scale applies.

2019-10-16 14:40:38 UTC  

wind energy honestly isnt all its cracked up to be...

2019-10-16 14:40:41 UTC  

Turbines will become cheaper as we use more of them

2019-10-16 14:40:51 UTC  

the pathway to carbon neutral should be fission into fusion.

2019-10-16 14:41:04 UTC  

Meme argument, it's not here yet. @killerqwerty

2019-10-16 14:41:07 UTC  

Keep investing in it sure

2019-10-16 14:41:09 UTC  

I cant imagine the winds will stop blowing in the seas around England

2019-10-16 14:41:10 UTC  

Don't depend on it

2019-10-16 14:41:22 UTC  

@Nathan James 123 that's why you start with fission

2019-10-16 14:41:25 UTC  

it can interfere with birds... the parts needed to build the wind turbines require fossil fuels...

2019-10-16 14:41:40 UTC  

All the bushes and trees in Cornwall are pointing the same way cos of all the wind

2019-10-16 14:41:45 UTC  

Over their lifetime, less carbon is emitted @UnScottable

2019-10-16 14:41:49 UTC  

in terms of kwh per dollar its nuclear fission (uranium), hydro electric ng, oil, coal, wind, nuclear fission (thorium, for now), and finally right at the bottom solar

2019-10-16 14:41:57 UTC  

maintaining them is a bitch and expensive... and also requires fossil fuels

2019-10-16 14:42:09 UTC  

they are noisy and just generally pretty lame yo

2019-10-16 14:42:12 UTC  

Significantly less than say, a coal plant

2019-10-16 14:42:18 UTC  

> The UK has 15 operational nuclear reactors at seven plants

2019-10-16 14:42:20 UTC  

Meaning we're less dependant on imports

2019-10-16 14:42:36 UTC  

Which from a strategic POV is very good

2019-10-16 14:42:47 UTC  

@Crafty are they power plants or breeder reactors though?

2019-10-16 14:42:51 UTC  

Foriegn companies and countries will have less influence / control over us

2019-10-16 14:43:00 UTC  

By holding their coal / oil / gas exports hostage

2019-10-16 14:43:06 UTC  

Or, ramping up the price

2019-10-16 14:43:21 UTC  

Coastal wind turbines are not an unreasonable idea in the UK, especially now their unsubsidised cost is now competitive

2019-10-16 14:43:30 UTC  

in terms of polutants wind is pretty good, solar is shit on both fronts, with just co2 emissions a full cycle solar pannel causes more than any fossil fuel except coal, and including non greenhouse gas polutants solar is just the worst

2019-10-16 14:43:36 UTC  

climate change is bullshit really

2019-10-16 14:43:42 UTC  

Don't care @UnScottable

2019-10-16 14:43:46 UTC  

National security.

2019-10-16 14:44:03 UTC  

admittedly don't know @killerqwerty, but it seems UK's nuclear energy supply peaked in the '90s

2019-10-16 14:44:03 UTC  

i think nuclear would be a much danker option

2019-10-16 14:44:16 UTC  

most uranium is mined in canada