Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-16 17:24:27 UTC  

Taiwan is something like 95% stay independent

2019-10-16 17:24:40 UTC  

With like 4% saying they should retake china.

2019-10-16 17:25:12 UTC  

Their opinion of china ranges from negative to mixed

2019-10-16 17:25:37 UTC  

hmm idk... once the spirit of personal freedom is ignited in a society... its very very difficult to turn it around

2019-10-16 17:25:54 UTC  

Easily done through indoctrination from birth

2019-10-16 17:26:08 UTC  

right but you have to get to that point though... to begin with

2019-10-16 17:26:21 UTC  

and parents arent going to do that if they themselves also believe in personal freedom

2019-10-16 17:26:37 UTC  

Those that support the CCP can be given help from the mainland

2019-10-16 17:26:40 UTC  

So even if the taiwanese government was subverted by china

2019-10-16 17:26:41 UTC  

So they rise in the political system

2019-10-16 17:26:43 UTC  

the people would resist

2019-10-16 17:26:56 UTC  

now would they be successful?

2019-10-16 17:26:57 UTC  

idk

2019-10-16 17:26:58 UTC  

'The people' are docile, as every other 'peoples' in the West

2019-10-16 17:27:06 UTC  

eeehhh thats what you think

2019-10-16 17:27:10 UTC  

They believe what they're told to believe

2019-10-16 17:27:18 UTC  

>WMDs in Iraq.

2019-10-16 17:27:21 UTC  

the only reason why people are docile.... is cuz the grocery stores still have food in them dude

2019-10-16 17:27:31 UTC  

the power is still on

2019-10-16 17:27:35 UTC  

And why wouldn't they in Taiwan? <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-10-16 17:28:00 UTC  

Subverting the Taiwan political system doesn't require those things to go away

2019-10-16 17:28:00 UTC  

lol

2019-10-16 17:28:02 UTC  

basically if the taiwanese gov was subverted and say... the internet was restricted or shut off

2019-10-16 17:28:07 UTC  

people would not be so docile...

2019-10-16 17:28:13 UTC  

That's a LATE stage policy

2019-10-16 17:28:24 UTC  

Well thats when itll come down to the wire though

2019-10-16 17:28:27 UTC  

It's not something they're instantly going to do..

2019-10-16 17:28:33 UTC  

when you have to start really enacting these things

2019-10-16 17:28:35 UTC  

They will slowly bring in restrictions inch by inch

2019-10-16 17:28:40 UTC  

Exactly like in Hong Kong

2019-10-16 17:28:44 UTC  

right and im saying the second its noticeable

2019-10-16 17:28:49 UTC  

you will get what you get in HK

2019-10-16 17:29:03 UTC  

But it will be at the point where people don't mind giving up more liberty since that's the norm

2019-10-16 17:29:07 UTC  

you are right in that people are docile... but never underestimate the masses

2019-10-16 17:29:17 UTC  

In 5-6 weeks Hong Kong will go back to being irrelevant in the news cycle

2019-10-16 17:29:22 UTC  

People will go back to work

2019-10-16 17:29:24 UTC  

And little will change

2019-10-16 17:29:27 UTC  

mmmm we will see

2019-10-16 17:29:36 UTC  

they already retracted the extradition bill

2019-10-16 17:29:41 UTC  

Same for the Yellow Coats, the Catalonian protesters, etc.

2019-10-16 17:30:00 UTC  

Hello jackets is still happening