progressivism in its extreme form is anti-capitalist and anti-liberal, but the same is true of conservatism

Free market libertarians are as bad as corporatists tbh <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Depends what you mean by conservative

The whole reason UK leftists support the EU is because its a foreign nation and the left hates the ingroup (the UK) and loves the outgroup in this case the EU

Civil liberties libertarians are your friend ❤

the progressive wing of the bourgeoisie is more relevant in the long term in liberal states because they're the faction that always wins in the long term

We need a fkn stickied glossary up in this bitch

AFK

They have never one

Won*

They always end up in a ditch somewhere

@Broken Cocaine Bars has ascended

Y'all smell of cat pee

<Believes in you have your rights, I have mine, and if anyone tries to take them we go throw them off a cliff <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

@Napoleon Lee Scott thankies

i love myself so much i disregard myself for the state

Anti-Anglo sentiments in the UK have always been apart of the neo-lib network since WW2. They didn't want us to lose the war but they were super happy when we lost battles @Samaritan

Not that, that is an argument at all anyway because as far as I can tell all forms of government have a limited lifespan

June

Dude you want to see evil go look up the suffragettes and what they actually did in the UK

ie handing out white feathers to VC winners and soldiers returned through injury

Storin, hush, you bigot! <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

@Mikey The left is like that in general American leftists hate the US UK leftists hate the UK Israeli leftists are pro fucking Palestine and are anti Zionist which is weird for people living in the Jew state

suffragettes should probably be the most hated group <:SmugPepe:510408646807519233>

the united states is no longer a white nationalist country, white people are on track to become a minority, gay marriage is now legal, homosexuality and other sexual disorders are not only normalized but are glorified, the family is broken, women are beholden to capitalists rather than to their husbands, there exists legal equality between men and women (and thus de facto privilege for women), ethnic minorities are granted explicit privileges over the ethnic majority, and at the moment even the ability to speak against these issues without being formally legally punished for it is being eroded

that's a pretty decent victory

@Storin That's a good point

Its the same control over the narrative they have now

in a generation or so it probably won't even be possible to stop it without the balkanization of the united states

Imagine being returned from ww1-ww2 mentally broken and shellshocked and some dumb bint gives you a white feather, the symbol of cowardice 🤷

@Samaritan I do think it's wrong to purely label it as the left but other than that I agree. After all, there's anti-national sentiments from both sides, just currently it's on the left. I think the real blow came from Blair. If he never got to be pm, it wouldn't as bad as it now. Not to say its an irreversible issue we have, but it's not going to be easy.

The United States is becoming more federal not less

Fuck the suffragettes seriously

But I'm a Brit, and a Brit has a fighting spirit. Something that's only been sleeping. The lions shall rise again <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

Nah they wont <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Brits already quit dude

@Mikey Yeah I know I come off as a frothing at the mouth anti leftist but I'm actually not I think there needs to be positive expression of the left and the psychological drive behind the left

cant even raise your loins, thats why the muslims are fucking your girls

Cadbal, as insightful as always <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

Britons shall never be slaves

I dunno, after october we shall see if we are slaves