everyone can feel it

even people who dont follow politics

too many contradictions all at once

But this might be a lot more than a socio-political crisis

If we take the environmental issue too

yeah its an existential crisis

to the species

fun time to be alive

Are you familiar with collapsology?

Pablo Servigne

Do you ever think "why did this have to happen in my lifetime"

no

I think that the whole tenants of society are going to break

For a while

It's just been pushed too far in every domain

Agreed

Even non human ones

So i think sometimes, rather than nation states conducting a world war, we might see internalized civil wars in major nation states

just my hunch

Besides you know it's the end when a civilzation knows that its end has come and even worse is welcoming it

yeah there's a death cult type of atmosphere

We had a good long run of it for over 1000 years

to a lot of things

yeah then we accidently industrialized

We need to look at intellectual movements since the 1950s, some revisionist marxist schools and later on postmoderns like Foucault

Putting your own legitimacy into question

It's no longer the humanist western dream marx had

It's more of a suicide

It's inevitable I think

Yeah

I think its 50 50

we might... maybe solve it. But at the very minimum we will see catastrophe

it raises an existential question

Then you see how the postmodernists build themselves in opposition to marx, the last pillar of western philosophy

how does one live in this scenario

Meow

Wow this is an interesting discussion

I don't think we should think like all those survivalist scenarios (every man for himself), total anarchy isn't what will happen

Even though we've been hardwired to see it like this through media and art

agreed I think in the face of catastrophe people will find solidarity

Its an argument iv had with people who "prep" to run away