Message from @Deleted User

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2019-06-28 10:37:09 UTC  

With development of capitalism

2019-06-28 10:37:13 UTC  

We are talking past eachother like 2 ships in the night

2019-06-28 10:37:33 UTC  

profit motive is a natural instinct

2019-06-28 10:37:35 UTC  

it is greed

2019-06-28 10:37:42 UTC  

greed is to perserve your supplies

2019-06-28 10:37:54 UTC  

perserving your supplies increases survival rate

2019-06-28 10:38:06 UTC  

and a few generations later a instinct is established

2019-06-28 10:38:52 UTC  

Then why we doesn't see profit motive as dominating in slave age or feudalism?

2019-06-28 10:39:19 UTC  

profit power, they are the same

2019-06-28 10:39:32 UTC  

No it's not profit power

2019-06-28 10:39:44 UTC  

if you have the power to keep someone away from the frute tree, you have profits

2019-06-28 10:39:46 UTC  

Feudalism is based on personal dependency

2019-06-28 10:39:58 UTC  

how so

2019-06-28 10:40:07 UTC  

You are peasant of one noblemen who is vassal of king

2019-06-28 10:40:36 UTC  

it isnt depencay more like exploitation of the weaker

2019-06-28 10:40:37 UTC  

You work for yourself on your field and field of your master

2019-06-28 10:40:51 UTC  

also making for royal power

2019-06-28 10:41:30 UTC  

@Deleted User yeah it's exploitation based on non-economical forms

2019-06-28 10:42:02 UTC  

If you just don't work you will be punished by feudal

2019-06-28 10:43:28 UTC  

But your relations are based on personal dependency (serfdom) from noble person and his family

2019-06-28 10:44:00 UTC  

And this system has evolved in prehiostoric history

2019-06-28 10:44:13 UTC  

you have a tribe leader and ppl submit to that tribe leader

2019-06-28 10:44:29 UTC  

the feudal system just increases the size of this natural behaviour

2019-06-28 10:44:30 UTC  

While in capitalism it's based on fact you have nothing only your labour force wich you can sell to capitalists.

2019-06-28 10:44:57 UTC  

and it workek , ppl went allong with this sytem. Because parts of their instincts related to this system

2019-06-28 10:45:07 UTC  

Sociual engineering exploits natural instincts

2019-06-28 10:45:15 UTC  

have you ever seen century of the self?

2019-06-28 10:45:46 UTC  

Also that youtube vid you posted, while you claimeded theer was no instinct. its in russian. i dont speak russian

2019-06-28 10:46:02 UTC  

Capitalism exploits natural instincts too.

2019-06-28 10:46:16 UTC  

@Deleted User then what making them different

2019-06-28 10:46:16 UTC  

it entises you to do stuff because of x reward

2019-06-28 10:46:31 UTC  

you have natural behaviour and instinct

2019-06-28 10:46:50 UTC  

I don't see what making human different from animals and difference of societies

2019-06-28 10:47:13 UTC  

and then you have natural culture (such as cavemane socital systems) and then you have modern day "culture" that is imposed upon us by industries , exploiting our natural instincts

2019-06-28 10:48:07 UTC  

its 4 parts of an hour https://youtu.be/DnPmg0R1M04

2019-06-28 10:48:07 UTC  

How that natural ones transformed into modern day "culture"?

2019-06-28 10:48:43 UTC  

The natural form of instinct is not transformed, it is the same

2019-06-28 10:48:57 UTC  

it is just that the inputs that trigger the natural respons and instint is artificial

2019-06-28 10:49:05 UTC  

mainly created by industries

2019-06-28 10:49:35 UTC  

@Deleted User instinct provided development of industries?

2019-06-28 10:49:45 UTC  

yes it did