Message from @Deleted User

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2019-06-28 10:34:47 UTC  

most dont at least

2019-06-28 10:34:51 UTC  

If they work they're human

2019-06-28 10:35:03 UTC  

Because work means concrete relations

2019-06-28 10:35:04 UTC  

most just grase on the field like animals

2019-06-28 10:35:10 UTC  

No

2019-06-28 10:35:16 UTC  

you dont understand what human means

2019-06-28 10:35:28 UTC  

when person hired by owners of means of production

2019-06-28 10:35:31 UTC  

if you work you just labor you are doing this to feed nd house yourself

2019-06-28 10:35:33 UTC  

this isnt human

2019-06-28 10:35:41 UTC  

this is animal survival behaviour

2019-06-28 10:35:53 UTC  

the owners are human

2019-06-28 10:36:02 UTC  

they are striving for something bigger

2019-06-28 10:36:10 UTC  

if they dont just do it for the profits at least

2019-06-28 10:36:16 UTC  

as that would be greed a instinct

2019-06-28 10:36:25 UTC  

There was no work in slave society you just must do what master say or you'll be killed

2019-06-28 10:36:43 UTC  

A laborer is not human, a laborer labors to sustain

2019-06-28 10:36:54 UTC  

Profit motive came very later

2019-06-28 10:37:09 UTC  

With development of capitalism

2019-06-28 10:37:13 UTC  

We are talking past eachother like 2 ships in the night

2019-06-28 10:37:33 UTC  

profit motive is a natural instinct

2019-06-28 10:37:35 UTC  

it is greed

2019-06-28 10:37:42 UTC  

greed is to perserve your supplies

2019-06-28 10:37:54 UTC  

perserving your supplies increases survival rate

2019-06-28 10:38:06 UTC  

and a few generations later a instinct is established

2019-06-28 10:38:52 UTC  

Then why we doesn't see profit motive as dominating in slave age or feudalism?

2019-06-28 10:39:19 UTC  

profit power, they are the same

2019-06-28 10:39:32 UTC  

No it's not profit power

2019-06-28 10:39:44 UTC  

if you have the power to keep someone away from the frute tree, you have profits

2019-06-28 10:39:46 UTC  

Feudalism is based on personal dependency

2019-06-28 10:39:58 UTC  

how so

2019-06-28 10:40:07 UTC  

You are peasant of one noblemen who is vassal of king

2019-06-28 10:40:36 UTC  

it isnt depencay more like exploitation of the weaker

2019-06-28 10:40:37 UTC  

You work for yourself on your field and field of your master

2019-06-28 10:40:51 UTC  

also making for royal power

2019-06-28 10:41:30 UTC  

@Deleted User yeah it's exploitation based on non-economical forms

2019-06-28 10:42:02 UTC  

If you just don't work you will be punished by feudal

2019-06-28 10:43:28 UTC  

But your relations are based on personal dependency (serfdom) from noble person and his family

2019-06-28 10:44:00 UTC  

And this system has evolved in prehiostoric history

2019-06-28 10:44:13 UTC  

you have a tribe leader and ppl submit to that tribe leader

2019-06-28 10:44:29 UTC  

the feudal system just increases the size of this natural behaviour

2019-06-28 10:44:30 UTC  

While in capitalism it's based on fact you have nothing only your labour force wich you can sell to capitalists.