Message from @Borzo
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Culture is maintained by the ppl
Culture is maintained by materialism
No it isnt
Ideas are determined by material conditions
And yet you call yourself a communist
the desire fore materials is a innner desire that is exploited
culture isnt a idea
Culture is nothing but an idea
It is immaterial
not even true
It is only ideas that give the material value, which then turn it into culture
bullshit
are you saying that traditional clothing is a idea
culture is defined as literally everything the human species has ever made
Clothing is material, tradition is ideal
The base is material, the superstructure is ideal
How is this termonlology has anything to do with the term culture exactly ?
To deny this, and to call yourself a Marxist is totally contradictory
So lets look at this image
Art = culture
Religion = culture
No
sceince is culture
Not all art is culture
lol
And not all religion is culture
i love how you dispute shit that is fact
Science certainly isn't culture
Science is science, logical law of the universe
Screenshotting Wikipedia doesn't prove anything
Its proving that your image is wrong π
it is proving that you and the image dont know what culture is
I think i can scratch another mark on the btfu list
"All objections urged against the Communistic mode of producing and appropriating material products, have, in the same way, been urged against the Communistic mode of producing and appropriating intellectual products. Just as, to the bourgeois, the disappearance of class property is the disappearance of production itself, so the disappearance of class culture is to him identical with the disappearance of all culture.
That culture, the loss of which he laments, is, for the enormous majority, a mere training to act as a machine.
But donβt wrangle with us so long as you apply, to our intended abolition of bourgeois property, the standard of your bourgeois notions of freedom, culture, law, &c. Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of the conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class made into a law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economical conditions of existence of your class.
The selfish misconception that induces you to transform into eternal laws of nature and of reason, the social forms springing from your present mode of production and form of property β historical relations that rise and disappear in the progress of production β this misconception you share with every ruling class that has preceded you. What you see clearly in the case of ancient property, what you admit in the case of feudal property, you are of course forbidden to admit in the case of your own bourgeois form of property."
- Marx, Chapter 2 of the Communist Manifesto
So marx wishes to destroy things