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2019-07-23 14:14:58 UTC  

culture isnt a idea

2019-07-23 14:15:59 UTC  

Culture is nothing but an idea

2019-07-23 14:16:06 UTC  

It is immaterial

2019-07-23 14:16:16 UTC  

not even true

2019-07-23 14:16:20 UTC  

It is only ideas that give the material value, which then turn it into culture

2019-07-23 14:16:31 UTC  

bullshit

2019-07-23 14:16:37 UTC  

are you saying that traditional clothing is a idea

2019-07-23 14:16:53 UTC  

culture is defined as literally everything the human species has ever made

2019-07-23 14:18:08 UTC  

Clothing is material, tradition is ideal

2019-07-23 14:19:07 UTC  

It is all part of the Base-Superstructure model

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/603229612247351306/image0.jpg

2019-07-23 14:19:11 UTC  

@Borzo Considering you have no nidea what you are talking about agian ,

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/603229629792256063/unknown.png

2019-07-23 14:19:35 UTC  

The base is material, the superstructure is ideal

2019-07-23 14:20:42 UTC  

How is this termonlology has anything to do with the term culture exactly ?

2019-07-23 14:21:06 UTC  

Maybe because "culture" is quite literally labelled in the superstructure

2019-07-23 14:21:25 UTC  

To deny this, and to call yourself a Marxist is totally contradictory

2019-07-23 14:21:40 UTC  

So lets look at this image

2019-07-23 14:21:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/603230261571747840/unknown.png

2019-07-23 14:21:52 UTC  

Art = culture

2019-07-23 14:22:03 UTC  

Religion = culture

2019-07-23 14:22:12 UTC  

No

2019-07-23 14:22:18 UTC  

sceince is culture

2019-07-23 14:22:21 UTC  

Not all art is culture

2019-07-23 14:22:22 UTC  

lol

2019-07-23 14:22:26 UTC  

And not all religion is culture

2019-07-23 14:22:29 UTC  

i love how you dispute shit that is fact

2019-07-23 14:22:37 UTC  

Science certainly isn't culture

2019-07-23 14:22:54 UTC  

Science is science, logical law of the universe

2019-07-23 14:22:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/603230586659799063/unknown.png

2019-07-23 14:23:15 UTC  

Screenshotting Wikipedia doesn't prove anything

2019-07-23 14:23:27 UTC  

Its proving that your image is wrong πŸ˜„

2019-07-23 14:23:41 UTC  

it is proving that you and the image dont know what culture is

2019-07-23 14:24:18 UTC  

I think i can scratch another mark on the btfu list

2019-07-23 14:24:34 UTC  

"All objections urged against the Communistic mode of producing and appropriating material products, have, in the same way, been urged against the Communistic mode of producing and appropriating intellectual products. Just as, to the bourgeois, the disappearance of class property is the disappearance of production itself, so the disappearance of class culture is to him identical with the disappearance of all culture.

That culture, the loss of which he laments, is, for the enormous majority, a mere training to act as a machine.

But don’t wrangle with us so long as you apply, to our intended abolition of bourgeois property, the standard of your bourgeois notions of freedom, culture, law, &c. Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of the conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class made into a law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economical conditions of existence of your class.

The selfish misconception that induces you to transform into eternal laws of nature and of reason, the social forms springing from your present mode of production and form of property – historical relations that rise and disappear in the progress of production – this misconception you share with every ruling class that has preceded you. What you see clearly in the case of ancient property, what you admit in the case of feudal property, you are of course forbidden to admit in the case of your own bourgeois form of property."
- Marx, Chapter 2 of the Communist Manifesto

2019-07-23 14:25:48 UTC  

So marx wishes to destroy things

2019-07-23 14:25:51 UTC  

nothing new theer

2019-07-23 14:25:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/603231313142480907/unknown.png

2019-07-23 14:26:10 UTC  

Lets just destroy that right

2019-07-23 14:27:15 UTC  

You are either idiotically misunderstanding what Marx is saying, or purposely strawmanning his argument to make it appear negative

2019-07-23 14:27:57 UTC  

So what are you doing, you are misunderstanding that you have to abolish all culture

2019-07-23 14:28:35 UTC  

You dont even know what culture is in the first place

2019-07-23 14:30:59 UTC  

You don't know the difference between class culture and culture