Message from @Lehi Avraham Stern

Discord ID: 614983768821858325


2019-08-25 00:37:42 UTC  

The testing shows they do whether it's genetic or not is a different discussion

2019-08-25 00:37:49 UTC  

no its not

2019-08-25 00:37:54 UTC  

and you know it

2019-08-25 00:38:26 UTC  

Show me anything that says on average blacks and asian and whites and latinos don't have average IQ differences

2019-08-25 00:40:26 UTC  

@Cantwell
Does IQ even matter lmao

2019-08-25 00:40:31 UTC  

Yes

2019-08-25 00:40:33 UTC  

why

2019-08-25 00:40:57 UTC  

It's the most stastically powerful construct in all of social science

2019-08-25 00:41:09 UTC  

what does IQ represent, and why does the flynn effect here doesn't apply here, how has IQ been influential in the past

2019-08-25 00:41:27 UTC  

It predicts everything to some degree in terms of income and life outcomes

2019-08-25 00:41:34 UTC  

you say it's "statistically powerful" in a field full of anti-empirical analysis

2019-08-25 00:41:45 UTC  

kind of funny you using that vapid argument

2019-08-25 00:42:25 UTC  

it isn't a empirical analysis, or even a statistical one as it has never been actually 100% fully correlated to a static body of data

2019-08-25 00:42:39 UTC  

it's why IQ so flawed as "STATISTICAL" analysis

2019-08-25 00:42:58 UTC  

it's a possible "measurement" not a way to analyze a group

2019-08-25 00:43:00 UTC  

What are you saying about the flynn effect?

2019-08-25 00:43:21 UTC  

@Cantwell it represents it's anti-empirical state.

2019-08-25 00:44:08 UTC  

it can't and isn't directly analyzing a static body of data *ever* and is never able to analyze it with other factors *ever*

2019-08-25 00:45:14 UTC  

it's why IQ is a joke in trying to prove "intelligence" in huge groups of people, whether they be litigated in a social, class, nation, or race level.

2019-08-25 00:45:43 UTC  

What do you think intelligence is?

2019-08-25 00:45:56 UTC  

there, that's another question it can't ask or even try to prove

2019-08-25 00:46:00 UTC  

its multifaceted and incredibly hard to define much less quantify

2019-08-25 00:46:12 UTC  

there are several different types of intelligence

2019-08-25 00:46:27 UTC  

What do you mean it can't ask?

2019-08-25 00:46:27 UTC  

emotional, interpersonal, logical, musical, bodily kinisthetic

2019-08-25 00:46:52 UTC  

Do you know what g is?

2019-08-25 00:47:02 UTC  

general intelligence yes

2019-08-25 00:47:20 UTC  

even so, there is no universally accepted way to quantify it

2019-08-25 00:47:30 UTC  

and what does that prove?

2019-08-25 00:47:32 UTC  

^ i kind of disagree with this too though.
I think it's generally useless to try to prove a measure of intelligence, trying to say "THERE CAN BE INTELLIGENCE ITS A TANGIBLE AND MEASURABLE THING" is a losing argument

2019-08-25 00:47:42 UTC  

you can't prove it

2019-08-25 00:47:49 UTC  

🤔

2019-08-25 00:48:01 UTC  

all this started because you said that black peoples lower intelligence contributes to poor behavior which leads to mistreatment during police interactions

2019-08-25 00:48:09 UTC  

and even thats a lie when you look at studies

2019-08-25 00:48:10 UTC  

@Cantwell what is intelligence in a person with various mental deficiencies

2019-08-25 00:48:32 UTC  

black people are several times more likely to be stopped and searched for example, despite being less likely to have contraband

2019-08-25 00:48:44 UTC  

It is the composite score of their different scores on various IQ subtests

2019-08-25 00:49:17 UTC  

@Cantwell no i'm asking you not in comparison with a regular population but instead in their ability to be "intelligent" in spite of those mental deficiencies

2019-08-25 00:49:29 UTC  

what is intelligence in that situation

2019-08-25 00:49:46 UTC  

It depends what mental defieincies you're talking about

2019-08-25 00:50:19 UTC  

why does it depend on them, they are mental deficiencies that make it harder to think, operate, and to retain information