Message from @Lehi Avraham Stern

Discord ID: 614982385385078784


2019-08-25 00:32:42 UTC  

do these studies account for differences in cultural, environmental and socioeconomic differences between races?

2019-08-25 00:33:30 UTC  

Not these because that's not what you said but there are several thousands that do

2019-08-25 00:33:56 UTC  

okay please find those

2019-08-25 00:34:08 UTC  

Show me something that says it is

2019-08-25 00:34:44 UTC  

im sorry?

2019-08-25 00:35:08 UTC  

show me any source that says race differences in intelligence are enviromental

2019-08-25 00:35:20 UTC  

70-100%

2019-08-25 00:35:35 UTC  

Don't know where you draw the line

2019-08-25 00:35:57 UTC  

you made the claim in the first place that black people have lower iqs

2019-08-25 00:36:02 UTC  

the burden of proof lies on you

2019-08-25 00:36:12 UTC  

I've proven they have

2019-08-25 00:36:29 UTC  

which studies specifically account for the factors mentioned above

2019-08-25 00:36:52 UTC  

Why do you need to control for any factors to say that they have different IQs?

2019-08-25 00:37:35 UTC  

because if the iqs are due to environment than genetic, then one can make the argument that it is not the black peoples fault for the worst outcomes when interacting with police

2019-08-25 00:37:42 UTC  

The testing shows they do whether it's genetic or not is a different discussion

2019-08-25 00:37:49 UTC  

no its not

2019-08-25 00:37:54 UTC  

and you know it

2019-08-25 00:38:26 UTC  

Show me anything that says on average blacks and asian and whites and latinos don't have average IQ differences

2019-08-25 00:40:26 UTC  

@Cantwell
Does IQ even matter lmao

2019-08-25 00:40:31 UTC  

Yes

2019-08-25 00:40:33 UTC  

why

2019-08-25 00:40:57 UTC  

It's the most stastically powerful construct in all of social science

2019-08-25 00:41:09 UTC  

what does IQ represent, and why does the flynn effect here doesn't apply here, how has IQ been influential in the past

2019-08-25 00:41:27 UTC  

It predicts everything to some degree in terms of income and life outcomes

2019-08-25 00:41:34 UTC  

you say it's "statistically powerful" in a field full of anti-empirical analysis

2019-08-25 00:41:45 UTC  

kind of funny you using that vapid argument

2019-08-25 00:42:25 UTC  

it isn't a empirical analysis, or even a statistical one as it has never been actually 100% fully correlated to a static body of data

2019-08-25 00:42:39 UTC  

it's why IQ so flawed as "STATISTICAL" analysis

2019-08-25 00:42:58 UTC  

it's a possible "measurement" not a way to analyze a group

2019-08-25 00:43:00 UTC  

What are you saying about the flynn effect?

2019-08-25 00:43:21 UTC  

@Cantwell it represents it's anti-empirical state.

2019-08-25 00:44:08 UTC  

it can't and isn't directly analyzing a static body of data *ever* and is never able to analyze it with other factors *ever*

2019-08-25 00:45:14 UTC  

it's why IQ is a joke in trying to prove "intelligence" in huge groups of people, whether they be litigated in a social, class, nation, or race level.

2019-08-25 00:45:43 UTC  

What do you think intelligence is?

2019-08-25 00:45:56 UTC  

there, that's another question it can't ask or even try to prove

2019-08-25 00:46:00 UTC  

its multifaceted and incredibly hard to define much less quantify

2019-08-25 00:46:12 UTC  

there are several different types of intelligence

2019-08-25 00:46:27 UTC  

What do you mean it can't ask?

2019-08-25 00:46:27 UTC  

emotional, interpersonal, logical, musical, bodily kinisthetic