Message from @Lehi Avraham Stern

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2019-08-25 00:56:12 UTC  

that doesn't mean they can't use that language

2019-08-25 00:56:36 UTC  

but that they might not be able to think outside those mind shaping concepts

2019-08-25 00:56:56 UTC  

at least not to the point where they can communicate their ideas

2019-08-25 00:57:27 UTC  

That generally doesn't happen outside of extremely high IQ people

2019-08-25 00:58:40 UTC  

Communication has nothing to do with IQ though

2019-08-25 00:59:16 UTC  

that's the point though and it's more than communication, it's that IQ can't account for those factors that have always been historically important for technological advancement

2019-08-25 00:59:52 UTC  

IQ is very important to technological advancement

2019-08-25 00:59:55 UTC  

also linguistic incapability

2019-08-25 01:00:40 UTC  

or underdeveloped languages and linguistic capability is very important factors in why neolithic humans weren't super geniuses that caused the space age to happen in their 30 year life time.

2019-08-25 01:01:46 UTC  

and IQ isn't important to technological advancement historically or now, I think it's ludicrous to suggest that IQ has measured why technological advancement happened.

2019-08-25 01:02:00 UTC  

Genetics haven

2019-08-25 01:02:06 UTC  

't determined those thigns.

2019-08-25 01:02:11 UTC  

things*

2019-08-25 01:02:14 UTC  

So basically you think the next Steve Jobs will have an IQ of 80?

2019-08-25 01:02:53 UTC  

Very open minded

2019-08-25 01:03:12 UTC  

no i'm saying the next steve jobs didn't need a super duper IQ because like his historical counterpart wasn't effective in introducting in technological advancement but instead using his social skills to sell products and be effective in marketing

2019-08-25 01:03:57 UTC  

plus i'm saying IQ as a measurement doesn't even really matter, or exist as a effective one, it's near fake, just a abstraction of human imagination.

2019-08-25 01:04:30 UTC  

Steve Jobs wasn't successfull because of social skills

2019-08-25 01:04:36 UTC  

Literally what

2019-08-25 01:04:49 UTC  

what are you talking about, he never made technological advancement happen

2019-08-25 01:04:52 UTC  

he didn't invent anything

2019-08-25 01:05:26 UTC  

the only reason why we know him is because he took the work of "intelligent" people in the field of computer science and Information technology

2019-08-25 01:05:27 UTC  

and sold it

2019-08-25 01:05:42 UTC  

he marketed, he made businesses, and he was effective in doing both, that's what made him rich

2019-08-25 01:05:59 UTC  

This entails a degree of intelligence

2019-08-25 01:06:26 UTC  

wealth doesnt eqate to intelligence

2019-08-25 01:06:29 UTC  

Very good marketers have a certain IQ

2019-08-25 01:06:41 UTC  

It's not just "social skills"

2019-08-25 01:06:44 UTC  

ok so intelligence is what than again? you say you need a certain IQ but IQ tests don't even measure that

2019-08-25 01:06:45 UTC  

often times its a matter of luck, and oppourtunity

2019-08-25 01:07:04 UTC  

IQ test measure language capacity

2019-08-25 01:07:28 UTC  

wow impressive thesis, IQ measurements measure linguistic structures and the capability to use them

2019-08-25 01:07:32 UTC  

and not the other way around

2019-08-25 01:08:24 UTC  

They do measure the ability to use them

2019-08-25 01:08:29 UTC  

i'll tell you now, no that isn't true, and that IQ measurements work under the capabilities of their language and linguistic overlords, as IQ comes from those things

2019-08-25 01:09:22 UTC  

so trying to say IQ can not be applied under the things their applied under is not possible, and again IQ doesn't measure that either

2019-08-25 01:09:37 UTC  

yes and that article before I even read that does not probably mention IQ

2019-08-25 01:09:50 UTC  

and now you are trying to tell me IQ does represent intelligence once again

2019-08-25 01:09:55 UTC  

which i've already disagreed with,