Message from @Firefly

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2017-05-08 19:58:12 UTC  

Merkel once stated in public that people can’t expect that pre-election promises will be kept. It’s still on Youtube, but in German, of course.

2017-05-08 19:58:15 UTC  

Always works

2017-05-08 19:58:38 UTC  

it literally doesnt matter who is elected

2017-05-08 19:58:48 UTC  

Back in 2002 Merkel said stuff what Le Pen says now.

2017-05-08 19:59:14 UTC  

Like "immigration is bad, we can’t accept all and need strict regulations".

2017-05-08 19:59:17 UTC  

the only single thing that bourgeois elections do is making people pay attention to this garbage

2017-05-08 19:59:38 UTC  

it just makes people less class counscious

2017-05-08 20:00:11 UTC  

More and more people realise that Western democracy is built on the illusion of choice and prefer to not vote at all because it’s pointless.

2017-05-08 20:00:33 UTC  

@Garlic the Soviet for some reason leftiest syndicalists still believe in democracy

2017-05-08 20:01:32 UTC  

In East Germany, voting got called "Zettel falten" (folding sheets of paper) informally. While East Germany had several parties, the coalition bloc had been set up before. Western democracies are smarter and pretend there is a real choice, and then the key parties come together and the same people stay in power.

2017-05-08 20:01:36 UTC  

if you support any of the candidates of the main parties in bourgeois elections then you are already pretty much an instrument of boirgeoisie

2017-05-08 20:02:10 UTC  

East Germany was basically a mixture of the One Party System and Western Democracy.

2017-05-08 20:02:25 UTC  

because there were plans to reunify Germany

2017-05-08 20:02:34 UTC  

they wanted to get the western requirements

2017-05-08 20:03:04 UTC  

It’s easier to control people, if you let them have their own parties but restrict their influence.

2017-05-08 20:03:45 UTC  

I’m not sure about that. East Germany clinged to Stalin much longer than the USSR.

2017-05-08 20:08:37 UTC  

Yes, at my time still taught in school. The Western Allies would never give up such a strategic place.

2017-05-08 20:08:46 UTC  

Germany is still a US colony.

2017-05-08 20:08:49 UTC  

@Garlic the Soviet Wow, I didn't know about this.

2017-05-08 20:08:55 UTC  

Everyday something new

2017-05-08 20:08:59 UTC  

oh yeah

2017-05-08 20:09:14 UTC  

they will rather tell you how greedy dictator Stalin divided the germany himself

2017-05-08 20:09:34 UTC  

This is enraging.

2017-05-08 20:10:46 UTC  

I also like how English schoolbooks tell the story of a bad Soviet Union trying to grab all the world and make it into colonies

2017-05-08 20:11:39 UTC  

Those of you who can understand German and are interested in German-German relations, should consider getting this book series: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14739858-deutschland-1948-bis-1999-in-10-b-nden these are the original Archive entries of Western Germany but surprisingly relatively neutral.

2017-05-08 20:11:40 UTC  

At the time England was a world colonial Empire

2017-05-08 20:12:06 UTC  

Yes, I read everything. 😄

2017-05-08 20:14:00 UTC  

@Tenta You're lucky to know languages. In our world access to information is one of the greatest perks after intelligence itself.

2017-05-08 20:14:13 UTC  

i wanted to learn polish

2017-05-08 20:14:19 UTC  

I wish I could read that

2017-05-08 20:14:20 UTC  

learnt just a bit 😃

2017-05-08 20:14:40 UTC  

I use my language knowledge mostly for that: gathering information but also for entertainment like watching stuff on Youtube.

2017-05-08 20:14:58 UTC  

I also follow some Polish sites, even some communist ones.

2017-05-08 20:15:47 UTC  

So far I have read only one real book in Polish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Desert_and_Wilderness

2017-05-08 20:16:26 UTC  

I got about 80%, I believe. When reading, I’m usually too lazy to look up words but this helps your reading comprehension in the long run.

2017-05-08 20:17:22 UTC  

Slavic and Germanic languages (apart from, maybe, English) prefer building new words from native roots and affixes, so if you encounter a new word, you can inspect both the root and the affixes. Thanks to the context, it’s highly likely you will guess the meaning correctly.

2017-05-08 20:17:52 UTC  

Finnish language is a recordsman in this

2017-05-08 20:18:00 UTC  

they have nearly no words that you can recognize

2017-05-08 20:18:21 UTC  

It’s a Finno-Ugric language, that’s why.

2017-05-08 20:19:02 UTC  

So far I have only seriously looked into various Indo-European languages and don’t plan to take on a non-IE language in near future. I already have enough on my plate.