Message from @Firefly

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2017-05-08 20:47:14 UTC  

@ent That's greece for you.

2017-05-08 20:47:39 UTC  

Pretty comparable to columbia with how it is a fucking warzone.

2017-05-08 20:47:39 UTC  

greece is amazing tbh

2017-05-08 20:48:00 UTC  

>tfw there is a complete province under anarchist control

2017-05-08 20:48:12 UTC  

@Deleted User It actually takes an effort to explain to Russian lefties to stop punching Fascist and start doing something productive.

2017-05-08 20:49:03 UTC  

@Firefly Well at least they (sort of) fight against the "rich" by starving themselves to death.

2017-05-08 20:49:13 UTC  

yeah, like become greece and start killing them

2017-05-08 20:49:56 UTC  

@ent >Tfw Antifa is labeled as a terrorist organization and is shut down within less than a week and NATO intervines violently in europe

2017-05-08 20:50:09 UTC  

tell that to greece

2017-05-08 20:50:22 UTC  

killings =/= revolution

2017-05-08 20:50:33 UTC  

and most of these killings aren't by antifa lmao

2017-05-08 20:50:44 UTC  

you cant label something as a terrorist organization if they arent the ones doing it

2017-05-08 20:50:45 UTC  

That is pretty much how it goes, they don't declare a rebellion yet they kill people.

2017-05-08 20:50:51 UTC  

if you read Karl Lenin, you will see that revolution can only be achieved through 420 bajillion killings

2017-05-08 20:51:01 UTC  

Yet they all have a similar agenda, which is to overthrow the state.

2017-05-08 20:51:12 UTC  

>overthrowing the state
> 😩

2017-05-08 20:52:21 UTC  

>Tfw You try to overthrow the state but it requires leaders and organization to do so making the end goal of your movement invalid

2017-05-08 20:52:33 UTC  

congrats

2017-05-08 20:52:37 UTC  

you just described CNT FAI

2017-05-08 20:53:49 UTC  

@Deleted User You know some lefties are authoritarian. Right?

2017-05-08 20:54:45 UTC  

Authoritarian commies? I thought they were labeled as untrue and contradictory towards lenin and marx....

2017-05-08 20:54:53 UTC  

@Firefly he's refering to me i think

2017-05-08 20:54:56 UTC  

im a Libsoc

2017-05-08 20:54:57 UTC  

(Then again so was stalin)

2017-05-08 20:55:19 UTC  

@ent >Libertarian >Socialist
That does not blend, at all.

2017-05-08 20:55:48 UTC  

@Deleted User Luxemburg, Deleonism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Etc. is libsoc

2017-05-08 20:55:55 UTC  

the anarchists use a diffrent definition of state

2017-05-08 20:56:03 UTC  

to them a government isnt a state

2017-05-08 20:56:06 UTC  

how is luxembourg libsoc

2017-05-08 20:56:13 UTC  

any Hierarchy is state

2017-05-08 20:56:23 UTC  

@Deleted User labeling is a right-wing propaganda. Communist studies and looks for evidence and logical data. Labeling tactics are all right-wing.

2017-05-08 20:56:49 UTC  

any hierarchial instituion is state, im pretty shit at explaining it @Luxy can do better

2017-05-08 20:57:01 UTC  

I cant be arsed to

2017-05-08 20:57:18 UTC  

CNT were hardly following anarchism though

2017-05-08 20:57:40 UTC  

they were pretty authoritarian and much more like the Bolsheviks in the Russian revolution

2017-05-08 20:57:43 UTC  

anarchism can hardly be followed at all

2017-05-08 20:57:57 UTC  

tbh

2017-05-08 20:58:03 UTC  

@ent Luxemburg, so one city surrounded by farm land, pretty much anything can work there, though for an actual country, it is contradictory since libertarianism, usually means larger amounts of rights and less taxation, as well as less restrictions on biunesses, while with socialism, there are higher taxes, more restriction on private property and bisuness.

2017-05-08 20:58:04 UTC  

and CNT is a bright example

2017-05-08 20:58:13 UTC  

the internationalist Brigades were effectively a vanguard