They already tried such a revolution in Belarus twice already but the police were vigilant and crushed them right away.

@Tenta ☣#4733 when I speak to Ukrainian nationalists now they're kinda looking down to the ground and are ashamed of what have happen. But they are still nationalist. Not the best learning abilities they have.

@Firefly , so they are finally realising they were puppets? 😮 I avoid Ukrainian nationalists as much as possible.

@Firefly Is democratic centralism structured with dialectics in mind; left vs right? In reality Marxism is neither left or right?

@Tenta Yeh, most hard core nationalist intelligentsia is really ashamed. One guy almost cried in front of me.

Wow! 😮

I’m really speechless, seems they are smarter than expected.

When I inspect groups like the Right Sector on both Facebook and VK, all I see is stupid nationalism.

@Deleted User We think now that democracy is far from being the best tool. I think we shall use both authority and democracy. Democratic centralism is not letting us use the whole power of authority. Makes us weaker. But it is useful at times.

@Tenta Most of people protesting already left the country and gave up.

@Firefly Who is 'We', do you mean this discord?

Many got drugged by drugs in free food and drinks.

Nationalist internet groups is CIA. CIA is still there

I told you about my friend from the Ukraine who, naturally, has much more insight.

@Firefly This is correct about CIA. Nationalists vs Islamic threat is the new 'Strategy of Tension'.

@Deleted User Sometimes I say we. Just a habit from childhood.

What those nationalists don’t realise is that Russia gifted almost the entire territory the Ukraine has now.

They let themselves get divided by the tiny rich elite.

@Tenta Ukraine would be a great country to start Revolution in. But we do not have the Party.

Tenta could help us in it

But is so busy and depressed

Can't do German channel

Fun fact: German neo Nazis are heavily divided on Ukraine, too. One faction supports the right-wingers, some even fight in their paramilitary forces while the other faction supports Putin, and some of them even want Putin to annex Germany to get freed from US influence.

Parts of the German left also want Putin to annex Germany, for the very same reason.

This is yet another example why "left" and "right" as political terms have become obsolete.

I’d actually not be against. He once promised he’d keep most of the laws intact, just like an autonomous region.

@Tenta Self-determination principle gave us a lot of political capital indeed. Left-wing can fight for nation. Nation can fight for Left-wing. It could be a union.

@Tenta CIA is very good at infiltrating and radicalising groups that fit the profile of opportunity, as an excuse to enforce their interests in the region sold as 'benevolent response'.

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16640819_1669388520028415_4647298383317169784_n.png?oh=3a41410ca19dfd84a6dd4e80a1bceaaf&oe=59BEF5B4 Germany is nearly at the bottom.

https://www.thelocal.de/20160802/hundreds-seek-to-leave-the-german-army-bundeswehr

To replenish the ranks, Germany again resorts to using child soldiers: https://www.thelocal.de/20161110/german-army-has-record-number-of-underage-soldiers

The German military has an incredibly low standing within the population. Once a NATO representative even expressed his disgust because Germans aren’t interested in fighting their wars.

@Tenta such is life of a puppet nation that lost the war.

I’m glad that more and more people start realising it.

Some anti-imperialist and self-deterministic propaganda would do.

NATO is an arms trafficking racket.

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

We've got a new German channel. @Tenta will be its lead.

@everyone

Congratulations to Tenta! I wish him to grow together with the channel.

Thanks! ❤ Naturally, most German speakers are currently not available. It’s 8:45am here.