Message from @Blebleh
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I have a question: would we be considered bourgeoisie or is that a term used for people that employ workers?
bouregoise is the rich middle class which owns businesses or corperations
having a lot of money as a middle class worker doesnt really fit the position of bouregoise
Ok
What do you guys think about financial analysts or people that work in finance?
my ma is not bourgeoise even though she is a banker and has associates working under her because she worked her way to the position under a boss
which she still does
So what you're saying is that as long as there is someone above you, you can't be a bourgeoisie?
Workers don't exploit anyone
They aren't extracting surplus value from other workers, they don't own the business
If something they could receive wages from other workers, passed from the bourgeoisie; that's called the labour aristocracy
What about a financial analyst that gambles the savings of others or bets on the livelihoods of others?
probably labour aristocracy
but speculation?
Some marxist economists consider it another for of exploitation
but they aren't owning other workers
I feel bad now because I might study finance in school
No
Other person would do otherwise
as i understand it
if you own MOP and hire people, you are bourgeoisie
you dont own MOP and work for wage, you are proletarian
yes
but there are labour aristocracy analysis, and maoist third worldists
bourgeois can be big, medium, very big (etc) or petit bourgeoisie
petit bourgeoisie is bourgeoisie that owns MOP, hire people but doesnt extract enough surplus value because it owns few MOP and he has to work himself
But can't you for an example own a foodstand, and not having anyone employed, and still be an Poletarian?
basically small business
if you own a MOP and only work yourself here
you are self employed
which is technically a petit bourgeois but you are like the smallest bourgeois possible
peasant who works on his private piece of land, even if he is very poor, is bourgeois
just very small
if peasant works on someone's else land for wage, however, he is proletarian
Okay, that means most of my family is petty bourgeois...
this is why Lenin said that peasants have double heart
well
my father is very bright example of petit bourgeois
he is director of small factory