Message from @Blebleh
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I agree on revisionism.
that revisionism pulled imperialism
Everything pulls everything
no, if the party kept the socialist line
they wouldn't have been imperialist
But it doesn't make a socialist country imperialist
Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism
the policies from the party pulled monopolist capitalism
it doesn't matter if they had good heart... imperialism depends on the economy
@Blebleh Imperialism is subjective on top of economical basis. Economy and subjective force maybe different at the same time.
Hoxha also denounced the cubans
and also the maoists after a period of time
Communist subjectively can't be imperialist
Even some revisionists, like Brezhnev
I didn't understand the penultimate phrase
Imperialism is not purely economical
It requires people to force it upon others
If there is no such people than it is not imperialism.
DEATH TO THE LEFT
imperialism isn't a program alone as let's invade countries
it emerges from the conditions of capitalism, it requires a monopolist capitalism which was restored with Khruschev, and therefore he had to obey that kind of economy
no matter how much he tried to be good
like reforming capitalism in social democracy, it's limited
@Blebleh I disagree on this. USSR has been most socialist country in the world.
Even after Stalin.
I could agree
but most socialism now is welfare state
still capitalism
even some people criticize stalin as capitalist
because he couldn't remove the capitalist relations of production (for this we would need world socialism)
but if there's no bourgeoisie... it seems leftcom to me
So my point is Idiots are not necessarily imperialist.
A country being imperialist or not doesn't depend on idiocy or intentions
You could say that the party restored capitalism with good heart
and call them idiots
but still imperialism