some works need scientific management like retail for capital

but in this case, they adopt other model

You're still thinking in worker terms.

most anarchist societies had governments

other than the maknovists

Same way Cuba was not very socialist, but anti-imperialist.

The perspective from a vested party is pure anarcho-syndicalism.

cuba was socialist lol

cuba is a great example of socialism

@petit bourgeois it can't

The stock market is a proxy for competition between these syndicates

Parties are hierarchical

stock market won't be in a syndicate society

@petit bourgeois Cuba doesn't have economy to be socialist

explain please

@petit bourgeois They are not self-sufficient.

Cuba and NK seek investments as they can't be in autarchy

@Ornament One who fights imperialism all their life might be an imperialist, or might be a stooge. This is why authority is important. With theory and with leadership. The average cannot be considered the best. Relying on the most competent also leads to the least mistakes, and the least likelihood of betraying your intentions, which is very possible if every individual is allowed to determine his own reality.

any country the size of that would be hard not to be sufficent

i don't think that's a fault of socialism

nk lives off of the black market lol

Cuba did very well for itself to try to curb the embargo

i feel like

even during the embargo they still went on vaccine research and sent soilders to africa

Korea introduced market socialism and they appeal to the bourgeoisie as the cheapest labour in Asia

they did?

the healthcare paid by the state

to seek investment

i thought they were central planners damn

@Deleted User I support dialectical equality of imperialism and anti-imperialism. Anti-imperialism may look like imperialism, but it is not. It is the opposite.

well, a portion of the system

but Kim Jong Um introduced reforms

the party

look

You know who figured out socialism pretty well...

my boy lenin

Fucking gadafi

aw hell yeah

gaddaffi was cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICWmQbWT0I

@Ornament I agree, but only if it is executed with correct knowledge.