happiness is a necessary extra

kromptokin talks about this

its what captialists ignore

@Ornament Science will decide what is acceptable.

@Deleted User It will. I hope it is on my side.

its the reason south korea has such a huge suicide rate

even Stalin talks about free time

because people can educate themselves, see the improvements

i think he talks about that with religion too

Makhno as anarchist puts a focus on self-discipline

yeah he had chain gangs lol

platformism

makhno was basically a pirate

Free time is the greatest value for proletariat. You can do literally anything and evolve faster.

All of this is an argument over "what's god want us to do"

the platform text is good

it's called anarcho-leninism

And it's not necessarily work all the fucking time

There is nothing sacred about happiness.

But it's not necessarily juche

But it's also not one size fits all.

@Deleted User It is not about happiness it is about progress

I think working in a gulag is happier for me

than for a capitalist, because at least I have a sense

Ehh but what if this gulag has been monetized?

I don't like mixing marxism with spiritual elements, neither the cult of personality, the leader culture

@Ornament Exactly. Science may determine that happiness and recreation is necessary to progress or it may suggest to move away from this paradigm if it means progress is faster. We should not hold onto our preconceptions as sacred cows.

So as to provide revenue for the glorious daddy state

there are religions for socialism, like dhamnic socialism

Ehhhh

Buddhism works

I don't think to prived renevue for the glorious daddy state; I don't think this state as a daddy

I think in the people, in the working class; the state means violence, state power is used by a class or by other one

@Deleted User it is not preconception. I see it happening everyday. It is a great advantage to have free time.

except when corruption is there; then it could all be degenerated

which is why I prefer anarchist models like a federation with delegates and so on, no ban on factions; the platform and the unions to achieve it

@Ornament Free to do what?

maybe a party but independent from the rest

@Deleted User anything.

@Ornament It is a great advantage to do 'anything'?