Message from @Deleted User

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2017-05-25 00:47:30 UTC  

You can't get around that.

2017-05-25 00:47:45 UTC  

Unless you reshape man's urges.

2017-05-25 00:48:15 UTC  

you have to kill man to reshape is urges

2017-05-25 00:48:25 UTC  

either by the soul or by the sword

2017-05-25 00:48:28 UTC  

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2017-05-25 00:48:31 UTC  

the urge dies only with the man

2017-05-25 00:49:30 UTC  

Are you saying his urge to trade objects of value is eternal and unchanging?

2017-05-25 00:49:46 UTC  

As a son will offer his mother his pacifier.

2017-05-25 00:49:55 UTC  

As a mother will offer her breast

2017-05-25 00:50:02 UTC  

as a father will offer meat and shelter

2017-05-25 00:50:14 UTC  

I'm afraid it's neurologically inherent.

2017-05-25 00:50:50 UTC  

What is so special about this inherent behaviour?

2017-05-25 00:51:18 UTC  

Evolution is a 'just in time' process.

2017-05-25 00:51:20 UTC  

It's how we survived in groups as prey animals for what looks to be seven million years.

2017-05-25 00:51:48 UTC  

I don't buy that, fully about evolution because im aware of epigenetics and epiproteomics

2017-05-25 00:51:54 UTC  

i know what it can and cannot do.

2017-05-25 00:52:18 UTC  

This is also why I am forced to reject Darwin;.

2017-05-25 00:52:27 UTC  

which cost me lots of friends

2017-05-25 00:52:41 UTC  

Do I say anything about genes not being about to turn on or off?

2017-05-25 00:52:59 UTC  

its in the implication of JIT evolution

2017-05-25 00:53:06 UTC  

I am saying that evolution is not perfect.

2017-05-25 00:53:25 UTC  

^ this is where we deadlock

2017-05-25 00:53:33 UTC  

evolution is the reference standard.

2017-05-25 00:53:47 UTC  

we cant change it, and we ought not to direct it

2017-05-25 00:54:28 UTC  

not on a whole species, or even macro-cultural level

2017-05-25 00:55:13 UTC  

Evolution builds on previous generations. Which is why there is such thing as an evolutionary dead end. You cannot undo or radically transform. This lack of flexibly makes it imperfect. If you were to manipulate evolutionary pressures on a species you could make it extinct.

2017-05-25 00:56:44 UTC  

That's a reflection of your own vulnerability. It's adapt or die no matter the cost or circumstance. That's how evolution makes decisions. You don't get to change that by arguing however eloquently it's imperfections.

2017-05-25 00:57:11 UTC  

I don't get to ignore it in my analysis if i deem it 'imperfect,' _THAT_ is pure ideology.

2017-05-25 00:57:40 UTC  

What do you mean, 'you don't get to change it'. Of course you do. It is inevitable.

2017-05-25 00:57:55 UTC  

you dont get to change the decision making method of evolution

2017-05-25 00:58:19 UTC  

Ah, that's true. But you can manipulate genetics.

2017-05-25 00:58:27 UTC  

It is vastly unwise to do so.

2017-05-25 00:58:37 UTC  

Do you have a good reason not to?

2017-05-25 00:59:43 UTC  

It's at once too complex and too misunderstood to apply with any certainty of outcome.

2017-05-25 01:00:04 UTC  

We will probably disagree here, but i've worked in genomics for a while now.

2017-05-25 01:00:16 UTC  

and while i ought not to appeal to authority

2017-05-25 01:00:45 UTC  

or declare myself an expert

2017-05-25 01:00:55 UTC  

my personal opinion is a gigantic well researched no

2017-05-25 01:01:07 UTC  

But you can understand, 'it's just too complex' is almost verging on luddite tier rebuttal.

2017-05-25 01:01:23 UTC  

which is my eternal disappointment with the determination