Message from @OF-8

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Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:17:41 UTC  

So humans can be changed, with selective breeding, or radical experimentation. Why is man sacred?

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:18:09 UTC  

That's a philosophical question that marx will talk you out of as I answer it.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:18:14 UTC  

Seek elsewhere for that question.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:18:36 UTC  

I am not a dogmatist. Try me.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:19:46 UTC  

Really you are saying man's urge is sacred.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:19:57 UTC  

Not that it cannot be changed.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:19:57 UTC  

^ this. Yes

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:21:04 UTC  

In the purely phenomenological sense, the nature or urge of man is a compulsion from an unknowably complex and long running process.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:21:35 UTC  

Yes we, through this divine urge, change the nature of man, but in doing so we break the link with divinity.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:22:13 UTC  

It is my opinion that this divinity is a wiser entity than you.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:22:35 UTC  

Or I. Or we.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:22:39 UTC  

Or the worker.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:25:40 UTC  

This is a regressive perspective. It doesn't matter if the process is better than anything we can imagine. What matters is that this may not be true forever. Why shouldn't we start now on our path for future mastery? Why are you motived to hamstring yourself, when you do not know all possible outcomes? This is anti-intellectual and Luddite tier.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:26:57 UTC  

How is it even possible to recognise that an origin (if that is even possible) is Absolutely perfect and thus its process today still is?

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:27:02 UTC  

Hardly. My disconnection from the divine wisdom of Marx is that I feel he is wrong in his analysis of the divine urge.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:27:20 UTC  

It is in das kapital that he fucks this up

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:27:36 UTC  

"I feel", "My opinion"

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:27:41 UTC  

I don't even need to cite chapter and verse, because it's all rubbish.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:27:50 UTC  

Stop changing the goal posts.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:27:55 UTC  

Lmfao

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:28:01 UTC  

I learned that from map

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:28:05 UTC  

Mao

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:28:17 UTC  

Well the mao2 model drones

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:29:05 UTC  

My point is, from my perspective the socialist direction is a misdirection of otherwise intelligent people into a form of slave religion.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:29:26 UTC  

1) Prove there is an Absolute origin
2) Prove that this origin is perfect
3) Prove that the process from the origin is perfect
4) Prove that mankind can never reach this level of perfection

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:29:38 UTC  

>materialists

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:29:46 UTC  

🚁

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:29:52 UTC  

Not an argument.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:30:07 UTC  

You demand proofs of the ethereal

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:30:20 UTC  

What is 'ethereal'?

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:30:34 UTC  

What else is there to do but provide fifteen seconds of socialist perfection

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:31:19 UTC  

Existence is dependant on proofs, fam.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:31:32 UTC  

RUSH HEAD FIRST INTO UTOPIA, innit?

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:31:42 UTC  

Got a better idea?

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:31:42 UTC  

I don't buy that thesis at all.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:32:14 UTC  

Yes. Several. First of all stop wasting good intellect on a philosophical garbage can

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:32:30 UTC  

Secondly, stop moaning about the system and use it wisely.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:32:50 UTC  

Thirdly, gain enough power and experience to effect real and wise change.

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:33:40 UTC  

Do you always reassure yourself with such vagueness?

Deleted User
2017-05-25 01:33:55 UTC  

Tell me your idea.

OF-8
2017-05-25 01:34:04 UTC  

That's the path.